CHAT about the Main table of 1/4 mile times etc. [Archive]

db2boy

26th January 2004, 10:39 PM

Hi folks,

Good to see some of you the other day, apologies I had to dash but Sainsbury's was closing!

12.7 @ 118mph - twins, standard internals, street rubber and boggy start :-p

The set up that did this will be for sale shortly :)

With a little luck and some spare time I hope to have an old skool @ Rotorstock with something a little fun under the front.

Best Wishes

Ant

maximtaylor

27th January 2004, 12:03 AM

Look forward to seeing it Ant :)

Nice to see you the other day BTW!

Regards

Max

db2boy

27th January 2004, 12:05 AM

Thanks Max :)

Rgds

Ant

20B_boy

27th January 2004, 12:19 AM

Thought I spied Nxx1 xxx in the piccies :)

Hope it wont be your only visit up this way shorty.

Glenn Butcher

27th January 2004, 02:40 AM

oky doky - started to add some information.

As you can see - I'll need more details, I'm not sure how much to put in about engine/turbo types etc. May be best to just say, Single Turbo / Twin Turbo, Engine port?

Ideas?

Anyways - keep submitting your times (actual slips would be good!) stops questions then! :)

g11ary

27th January 2004, 07:47 AM

sorry mine is single turbo.

davefrith

27th January 2004, 09:12 AM

and mine is Twin :)

Dave

maximtaylor

27th January 2004, 10:03 AM

I've been left off, I'm off for a good cry :(

Glenn Butcher

27th January 2004, 10:38 AM

As a temporary measure Max, to make up for my mistake I have put you first based on MPH, Gary - was your time a 12.620? :)

Anyways, it's slowly coming together, come on you lot - start submitting your times!

.ps Off to bed soon!

Davegtt

27th January 2004, 10:59 AM

Just a sugestion but perhaps it would be nice to have a second "sub" table indexed to the first with a breif list of mods done to the cars?

Dave :)

davefrith

27th January 2004, 11:04 AM

and a column for dyno figures might be useful :)

or maybe I am just complicating things

Dave

20B_boy

27th January 2004, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by gbutcher
Anyways, it's slowly coming together, come on you lot - start submitting your times!

This may help mate:

http://tinyurl.com/3apq4

Glenn Butcher

27th January 2004, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Davegtt
Just a sugestion but perhaps it would be nice to have a second "sub" table indexed to the first with a breif list of mods done to the cars?

Dave :)

Dave - I was thinking about putting a Hyperlink in on the Persons name, which would link to a thread of your own in the various sections i.e. "3rd Generation RX-7's" etc.

Dave (Frith) - I could put that in as a seperate thread I guess within this section. Perhaps rename the whole thing to "Records held" ? Only thing is that Dyno Figures arguably don't mean much - it is 1/4 times and MPH's that do??? That is why I think - Whatdyallfink?

.ps Really going to bed this time!

davefrith

27th January 2004, 11:49 AM

I just thought dyno figures although they don't mean much might be quite interesting to compare when you can see the real world times as well

sort of time you can get with what HP etc

Dave

Carl

27th January 2004, 12:21 PM

And who built the engine,who did what mods to it and the like.

My RX3 did a 12.876 1/4 at 114.8 mph.

Stock Twin turbo motor installed by Geff at Re Worx,tuned by Ant and Myself.Street tyres.apexi ecu.Front mount intercooler.

Cheer up Max,you will soon have a time put up that is worth waiting for.

Kind regards
Carl

Davegtt

27th January 2004, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by BlitzBoy
Mine after fixing my boost problem was 14.001@101 at santa pod
in October

Blitz boy, have you ever dyno'd your car ?

Dave :)

BlitzBoy

27th January 2004, 04:04 PM

Yep why Dave?
I dyno'd the car last year at G-Force last year, running at 9 psi, 207 at the wheels which works out approx 255 at the fly, this was before the decat and boost leak being fixed

g11ary

27th January 2004, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by gbutcher
As a temporary measure Max, to make up for my mistake I have put you first based on MPH, Gary - was your time a 12.620? :)

Anyways, it's slowly coming together, come on you lot - start submitting your times!

.ps Off to bed soon!

I dont care as long as it goes above max's. :rolleyes:

maximtaylor

27th January 2004, 08:24 PM

Spoil-sport Gary ;)

Let me enjoy my half day of fame till Glenn wakes up

:rollin

Max

Glenn Butcher

28th January 2004, 12:37 AM

Hi all,

Updated the table again, I have put the Company in there - you will have to tell me the company you want to put against it. I know in some cases there won't be a company (if it is near standard etc.).

Also added a DYNO column - so please let me know these figures also.

Geff/Carl - although interesting :) perhaps some of these things would be better sorted over the phone.

.ps Rich - I couldn't get that link to work?

20B_boy

28th January 2004, 12:42 AM

Sorry mate, it damn well worked before but doesnt want to now :( Any way, it was a link to a file in the FDUK archive that may help, here it is copy/pasted - delete it when yer done with it, may be a few other posts too to keep this therad focused... :)

1/4 sorted by time

Geff 12.37 @ 123 - Elvington - TOTB II - 03/08/03
Gary Marks 12.62 @ 111.32 - Santa Pod - Jap Perf Show - 12/10/03
Max Taylor 12.625 @ 113.38 - Santa Pod - RWYB 26/10/03
Russel Goodhall 12.66 @ ??? - Elvington - TOTB II - 03/08/03
Ant 12.71 @ 115.6 - Santa Pod
Rich Alexander 12.74 @ 118 - Santa Pod
Ross Juniper 12.783 @ 120.16 - Santa Pod - Jap Perf Show - 12/10/03
Steve Cleary 12.8 @ 111 - Santa Pod
Chris Philip 13.21 @ ??? - Elvington - TOTB II - 03/08/03
Phil Gooriah 13.599 @ 104.71 - Santa Pod
Chris Ellis 13.64 @ 99.92 - Santa Pod - Jap Perf Show - 12/10/03
Henning 13.8 @ 101 - Santa Pod
Dave Thompson 13.949 @ 100.25 - Santa Pod
Caz 14.051 @ 99.29 - Santa Pod - 2002
Craig Fowler 14.33 @ 100.06 - Santa Pod

20B_boy

28th January 2004, 12:47 AM

May be divide the company column in to 'built' and 'tuned' as many will have different engine builders to tuners, and many will still be on their first engine. Ok, a few will still be on the first engine :rollin

G'night john-boy!

Glenn Butcher

28th January 2004, 01:03 AM

Ta Rich - thanks for that mate.

I have updated the table again. Still lots of spaces, so please all reply when you get a mo.

clive

28th January 2004, 08:38 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gbutcher
[B]Hi all,

Geff/Carl - although interesting :) perhaps some of these things would be better sorted over the phone.

Totally agree with you Glenn, and although Geff seems to have an issue with the engine that Carl supplied him for free ! this forum is not the place the thrash it out as it potentially damages not only the individuals involved but also the MRC forum !!

Kevint

28th January 2004, 08:52 AM

Ant's 12.71 and Caz's 14.05 were both achieved on 14/7/2002.

Cheers

Kevin

Carl

28th January 2004, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by clive
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gbutcher
[B]Hi all,

Geff/Carl - although interesting :) perhaps some of these things would be better sorted over the phone.

the engine that Carl supplied him for free ! !!

Hi Glenn and Clive and all,
I would like to point out that I did not supply the engine to Geff for free,he did some work for me for it.
We had an agreement that I would get it back after it's usefulness had gone and that is what we did.I did a swop with Geff for another engine which he is going to build into something awsome.
I would like to apologise to Geff and all on this site if I have caused any offence.
I am, like most looking forward to a good year.
I know that with people like Geff out there it should be a good one as he is one of the people who are really putting the rotary into the public domain.
I look forward to seeing your 10 second car Geff,keep up the good work mate.
Kind regards
Carl

davefrith

28th January 2004, 09:27 AM

Morning!

My name on the table has 207rwbhp by it ? :eek:

It should be 271.6 RWBHP, not sure where the 207 came from.....

Please amend it so I get vaguely near Max !! :D

Dave

bnaellis

28th January 2004, 09:35 AM

I thought it was caz that was in 3rd place :rollin :rollin
sorry couldn't resist.

rgds

bnaellis

28th January 2004, 09:36 AM

Hopefully I will be at pod on the 25th of next month.
Please reserve 1st place for me Glen cheers:rollin :rollin
yes I know i'm beingh cheeky this morning. Must be something my wife put in my coffee.

rgds

Davegtt

28th January 2004, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by BlitzBoy
Yep why Dave?
I dyno'd the car last year at G-Force last year, running at 9 psi, 207 at the wheels which works out approx 255 at the fly, this was before the decat and boost leak being fixed

Cheers mate, was just wondering if you had standardish power, good for comparisons.

Dave :)

20B_boy

28th January 2004, 09:39 AM

and although Geff seems to have an issue with the engine that Carl supplied him for free !
I dont see how this helps...there are obviously only two people who know the details of this episode, I dont pretend to be one and I dont think you should either mate as its obviously NOT the case - the motor was NOT free?!

Carl, I'm sure Geff appreciates your response.

Shall we REALLY leave it there now? Perhaps this thread should be weeded as these posts are distracting from what is otherwise an interesting thread :rolleyes:

20B_boy

28th January 2004, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
Hopefully I will be at pod on the 25th of next month.
Please reserve 1st place for me Glen cheers:rollin :rollin
yes I know i'm beingh cheeky this morning. Must be something my wife put in my coffee.
You going to run the white one mate? are u tuning it atm? what happened about engine management in the end or is that still in the air?

Hope we can get a few people up to pod for the RWYB's this year, should be some good times to watch from the Rotors - hurray :D

bnaellis

28th January 2004, 09:53 AM

Hi Rich,

It's being put back togther at the mo.
I will be tuning it within next few weeks.
Will have an apexi in the end not happy about a couple of things with thge running of the microtech even though it is easier to tune of the two.

rgdfs

g11ary

28th January 2004, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by maximtaylor
Spoil-sport Gary ;)

Let me enjoy my half day of fame till Glenn wakes up

:rollin

Max

Cant mate coz I know my little to4e wont keep up with you BIG boys for too much longer.............:D

20B_boy

28th January 2004, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by g11ary
Cant mate coz I know my little to4e wont keep up with you BIG boys for too much longer.............:D
Send your ickle to4e to aus and get it mod'd into it a PROPER to4e; 380kw should keep u in the game for a while!!! :)

maximtaylor

28th January 2004, 10:19 AM

Could a kind moderator put my engine/mechanical preparation etc down as RE:Worx please? Self tuned though :)

Also...Steve Cleary's car is/was a single on his run.

I'll think of something else soon ;)

Regards

Max

BlitzBoy

28th January 2004, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by davefrith
Morning!

My name on the table has 207rwbhp by it ? :eek:

It should be 271.6 RWBHP, not sure where the 207 came from.....

Please amend it so I get vaguely near Max !! :D

Dave

Ha ha Dave I think Mr G Butcher has put MY 207 rwhp by your figure instead of mine !!! lol :rollin

Im sure Mr Butcher will correct soon

davefrith

28th January 2004, 10:27 AM

he is probably confused cos he's upside down :rollin

Dave

BlitzBoy

28th January 2004, 10:36 AM

mwwwwwaaaaahhhhaaahaaa I think him dreaming all the time of his 4 rotor has damaged his brain lol:D

Glenn Butcher

28th January 2004, 12:16 PM

G'Day,

Right - made a few more changes to the table. I think what I'll do is wait for a bundle of items to come in for changing and do them all at once.

Sorry bout the mistakes! :)

I'll be in the workshop tomorrow fiddling with the 4rotor, almost completely stripped now ready for work to start on the v. complex rollcage!

.ps The workshop there is usually the same temperature as outside i.e. around 30 degrees C tomorrow! :eek

.pps Popular thread eh! :)

DRAGON

28th January 2004, 12:19 PM

Hey Brian wanna put your money where your mouth is?;)

Glenn Butcher

28th January 2004, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by DRAGON
Hey Brian wanna put your money where your mouth is?;)

Thems fightin words, gloves are off!

By the sounds of it there will be a number of tough rotors there this year, and hopefully even more next year.

Now is anyone actually going to purchase some proper drag street tyres?

Hmmm - 4rotor should go alright down the quarter, maybe I'll have to reserve the top spot? :wiggle

BlitzBoy

28th January 2004, 12:57 PM

Well not Drag tyres as such, going to purchase a set of Yokohama AO-32R after the mods im going to fit, not to fussed on getting a really fast quarter , but dying to get a sub 2 second 60ft my best so far is a 2.1

iaint

28th January 2004, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by gbutcher
Hmmm - 4rotor should go alright down the quarter, maybe I'll have to reserve the top spot? :wiggle

Thought the times were for UK rotors... ;)

Iain

PS Maybe someone would like to compile a 'world' league table...

J4P RX

28th January 2004, 01:07 PM

The 4 Rotor is coming here though :D

That was the plan anyway - it better be coming here ;)

Lee

20B_boy

28th January 2004, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by gbutcher
Now is anyone actually going to purchase some proper drag street tyres?
I think a few people already have mate, time to watch drive trains :censored::censored::censored::censored: themselves! :)

And Ross, I think like Dragging the world over its gonna have to be classed, I reckon yours is getting nearer a funny car every time u post; u gotta put down that air saw mate! :rollin

bnaellis

28th January 2004, 02:56 PM

Ross number 1 I don't gamble and number 2 if I did I'd pick someone my own size. But come february I will be seated in pole position for how long is another matter.:)

rgds

Carl

28th January 2004, 03:10 PM

Hi Brian,
I think tortoise Tim may have something to say about that!LOL!
Kind regards
Carl

iaint

28th January 2004, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
I suspect so Carl. I supect you may have something to say too;)

rgds

I'll be happy to be somewhere on the table. I know my place :-)

Must get round to decatting and apexi-ing by then though...

Iain

John Yorke

28th January 2004, 04:59 PM

Hay Glen
Am I to understand there are no rules apart from it being rotary powered. Does the car have to be street legal [MOT'ed / SVA'ed], DOT tyres ect.?:confused:

Carl

28th January 2004, 05:14 PM

The info that is put in can help with that John.
I guess that formula 1 car with a rotary in it that you have can come out now!
Kind regards
Carl

DRAGON

28th January 2004, 05:36 PM

My entries will be completely street legal. Drive them there, and drive them back, or call Mr AA.

J4P RX

28th January 2004, 05:52 PM

Youll need to put those wipers back on to get it an MOT then!

Lee

Robertio

28th January 2004, 07:31 PM

Along with washers and a heater type thing to demist the screen IIRC I suppose if you lop off the roof and put on a small aero screen you could get around that though ;)

Glenn Butcher

28th January 2004, 08:20 PM

Hi John and all,

It is all just beginning.

There will eventually be classes like:

Outright
Untubbed
Tubbed
Full Race
etc.

I think for now the main thing will be getting cars into the 9's, 10's, 11's etc.

This was a big issue for a while in Oz, "oh it isn't street legal etc!?" so obviously the class system will need to be in place eventually.

To give you some idea we have cars here that are in the 7's and meant to be street legal (most are towed to the track/on trailers) - and I think our rules are not as liberal as they are there for what can be registered on the street.

I also think it is perfectly ok to run slicks on a street car at a drag meeting, I know many people don't think this is a good idea - but when you have been there and done it you never want to go back.

I think it is all good. :)

Fishy

28th January 2004, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by 20B_boy
Sorry mate, it damn well worked before but doesnt want to now :( Any way, it was a link to a file in the FDUK archive that may help, here it is copy/pasted - delete it when yer done with it, may be a few other posts too to keep this therad focused... :)

1/4 sorted by time

Geff 12.37 @ 123 - Elvington - TOTB II - 03/08/03
Gary Marks 12.62 @ 111.32 - Santa Pod - Jap Perf Show - 12/10/03
Max Taylor 12.625 @ 113.38 - Santa Pod - RWYB 26/10/03
Russel Goodhall 12.66 @ ??? - Elvington - TOTB II - 03/08/03

I am sure that the third place should be changed to say Driven by CAZ, owned by Max. :p

Sorry mate. ;)

Dan

maximtaylor

28th January 2004, 11:17 PM

If you did, you'd be wrong Fish!

Caz drove my car 2 weeks prior and managed a 13.213, hence my desire to go back two weeks later and make amends with the result a 12. something.

So there:p

Regards

Max

20B_boy

28th January 2004, 11:29 PM

And Max is a reformed man now. He goes hard these days (so to speak) :)

Rich: Who's an animal Maxim??
Max: I am
Rich: And what noise do animals make Maxim?!???
Max: GGGurrrraaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! GRUURAAAAAHHH!!!!!

See :rolleyes:

20B_boy

29th January 2004, 12:04 AM

G11ARY;

a) a 35/40 isnt big mate :)
b) your 2 'little ones' are a bit bigger than Max's 'big one' oeveral I'd say, eh? ;-)

John Yorke

29th January 2004, 08:19 AM

Gentelmen
Size isnt everthing:o - It's how you apply it:wave.

Glen: I think you will find that quite a number of the cars on your table were running single turbo.

John Yorke

29th January 2004, 08:23 AM

............Like Geff
Russel
Rich A [Geffs car]
Ross
Hope this helps:cool

Carl as it happens I was thinking of 2 wheels:bandit

gsb876

29th January 2004, 04:26 PM

I will post my times when i get a chance to have a go at the 1/4 mile;)

I have the purple one from dragon running at 460bhp:eek: just a case of getting used to the clutch first and of course traction would help

Heres a pic

Fishy

29th January 2004, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by maximtaylor
If you did, you'd be wrong Fish!

Caz drove my car 2 weeks prior and managed a 13.213, hence my desire to go back two weeks later and make amends with the result a 12. something.

So there:p

Regards

Max

Sorry boss. :wave

Dan

Glenn Butcher

30th January 2004, 08:59 AM

Just updated John.

Carl

30th January 2004, 09:15 AM

1st Nov 2001 Gary Gooding did a 12.68 at 113.05mph Santa Pod.
Single turbo,WGT ported engine,Stock injectors plus 2 550cc.
Carl

John Yorke

30th January 2004, 09:23 AM

Does same terminal speed count:D Shame the time was 14.33:confused: must have some launching / traction probs me thinks.

rotorhead666

30th January 2004, 05:58 PM

I've seen a slip for Tim White's 12a turbo,and that was 13.2.Without his whacking great new turbo...or nitrous

rotorhead666

30th January 2004, 08:54 PM

Please include 13.1 @110mph,at santa pod.GT30 turbo on stock 12A,no intercooler,no Nos.The 13.2 was with Nos,stock turbo,111mph.I now have bigger turbo on ported 12A,and microtech ECU.Watch out for the purple peril!

gsb876

30th January 2004, 09:00 PM

I haven't yet done the 1/4 mile but my rx has a t78 turbo:eek:
so we'll see in the summer guys

gsb876

30th January 2004, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by gsb876
I haven't yet done the 1/4 mile but my rx has a t78 turbo:eek:
so we'll see in the summer guys

HAVE A LOOK:bandit

rotorhead666

30th January 2004, 09:14 PM

I registered as Timrxmotors,and have just appeared as Rotorhead 666,but really it is me.Tim.

20B_boy

30th January 2004, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by gsb876
I haven't yet done the 1/4 mile but my rx has a t78 turbo:eek:
And? :) Experience launching hi-power RWD makes seconds, not just big turbos mate (although they help, especially with some kind of anti-lag steup ;-)).

Watch out for all the GT35/40 boys out there - and there are quite a few these days - those babies spool quick and are not that short on power compared to ye old T78 if they are wound up properly :D

Nice looking car btw :)

g11ary

30th January 2004, 09:24 PM

well you got the 666 right anyway.
I hope you have some big suprises for us at rotorstock.

Carl

30th January 2004, 09:28 PM

I think that Tim will have a little suprise for us!!
It will be really great to see your 1st gen taking it to the Sklylines Tim.
kind regards
Carl

db2boy

30th January 2004, 09:39 PM

Cant wait and hope it all hangs together this time around!

Ant

20B_boy

30th January 2004, 09:52 PM

Geff went out with Tim last week I think, said it felt 'pretty quick' :)

How's the FC going Tim? making any progress with the LTX12?

gsb876

30th January 2004, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by 20B_boy
And? :) Experience launching hi-power RWD makes seconds, not just big turbos mate (although they help, especially with some kind of anti-lag steup ;-)).

Watch out for all the GT35/40 boys out there - and there are quite a few these days - those babies spool quick and are not that short on power compared to ye old T78 if they are wound up properly :D

Nice looking car btw :)

To be honest having trouble launching as the cars got a twin plate clutch so not too cool at mo:(
Once the weathers better should be better:confused:
Will keep you posted

20B_boy

30th January 2004, 11:32 PM

Dont worry mate, you'll get used to it very quickly - then you'll forget its there. They are well worth it, worry not. When u drive a stock car again you'll wonder how such a weedy feeling thing could do the job.

bnaellis

31st January 2004, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by 20B_boy
Geff went out with Tim last week I think, said it felt 'pretty quick' :)

How's the FC going Tim? making any progress with the LTX12?

I went out with him too the other day it is quick but not as quick as me when it was time to get out the car after having demos of how the lts slip diff works in the wet:rollin

rgds

Carl

31st January 2004, 09:12 AM

Hi Brian,
Was that the day that you discovered the colour of adrenaline?
You know,Brown!
Kind regards
Carl

bnaellis

31st January 2004, 09:28 AM

:rollin yes Carl but i'm sure i'll get my own back:D

rgds

bnaellis

7th February 2004, 12:16 AM

How do I modify the 1/4 database or do I not have access to do this ? Tim rxmotors would like his 13.1 at 110mph at Santapod added otherwise I won't get any more discount:D

rgds

Glenn Butcher

7th February 2004, 01:01 AM

Brian, it is a little tricky to edit.

I have added Tim in, but I wasn't sure of the engine etc.

20B_boy

7th February 2004, 01:08 AM

Beat me to it mate!

I had changed a few others too. Never mind :)

bnaellis

7th February 2004, 01:10 AM

Hi Glen,

12a I believe witha gt35/40 turbo.
cheers

Glenn Butcher

7th February 2004, 01:21 AM

Ta Rich!

.ps Let me know when you change items as what I do is copy and paste the text into Dreamweaver (keeping a local copy) makes it much easier to edit also.

Brian - done.

20B_boy

7th February 2004, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by gbutcher
what I do is copy and paste the text into Dreamweaver
Me too! :D

royston1xx

7th February 2004, 07:45 PM

Tim had a gt30 turbo when he did 13.1 at 110 mph

clive

22nd February 2004, 09:34 PM

Went for a little play at Santa Pod today with Danny and a couple of mates,

Got five passes in with not a huge amount of grip,
[ a following Skyline l was against told me he saw smoke from my tyres at half distance !!! ]

O'yes and totaly the wrong gearing !!!

Anyway enough excuses, looking at the tickets the best three are as follows

12.304 /116.67 mph

12.289 / 118.79 mph

12.207 / 111.71mph

Many thanks go to Carl at Hayward Engines , for the street ported Engine and Ant and Carl for the mapping.

[ Danny has some pics and a bit of video to put up ]

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Details from the quicker run are as follows

Reaction / .667 [ I'm getting old ]

60ft / 1.831

330ft / 5.098

1/8th ET / 7.809

1/8th mph / 88.71

1/4 ET / 12.07

1/4mph / 111.71

Carl

22nd February 2004, 09:39 PM

Brilliant!!!
Well done Clive.
And for those who would like to know he did it on road legal Race tyres,so grip should have been good but Clive reckons that the track temp was too cold and also the delays between burnouts and running were a bit long,so the tyres probably cooled a little.
Kind regards
Carl;)

db2boy

22nd February 2004, 09:52 PM

Good show old boy! Bit of tweaking and an 11 then? :)

Congrats

Rgds

Ant

20B_boy

22nd February 2004, 09:57 PM

Woo hoo!! Go the yello man!!!

12.2 at 112 - must've been getting the beans down ok? How did the 60fts feel compared to way back then?! What rubber exactly mate? the vid looks look they did the job. Gots to get me some of them. Oh, and a car I guess :rolleyes:

Top dollar bud, was thinking of popping up in the chugger but I woke up full of snot and with a red nose :( so spent the day being waited on instead :)

db2boy

22nd February 2004, 10:05 PM

Carl,
Looking over the results table (and preying I get finished for RS ;-) ), is that the top 3 engines that you have built and ported now?

Rgds

Ant

Carl

22nd February 2004, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by db2boy
Carl,
Looking over the results table (and preying I get finished for RS ;-) ), is that the top 3 engines that you have built and ported now?

Rgds

Ant

Hi Ant,
Yes it is.
I think not for long though.
I reckon Tim(RX Motors) will be going in a few days and he has a really quick car.
This is getting exciting!
Kind regards
Carl

db2boy

22nd February 2004, 10:14 PM

Cool :)

I need to get a move on so I can come out to play again ;)

Rgds

Ant

Carl

22nd February 2004, 11:12 PM

I forgot to say thanks for all your help on the tuning Ant.it is good to work together on this.
It is really gratifying to see a good result from our efforts,and thanks to Clive too,from what I hear it was not too easy to drive with wheel spin all the way up the track!Good skill that Man!
Kind regards
Carl
:D

db2boy

22nd February 2004, 11:19 PM

No thanks required, as you say its great to work together and share our skills and knowledge - the results have/will start speaking for themselves?

I look forward to continuing what I trust we have been building upon :)

Rgds

Ant

:cheers

maximtaylor

23rd February 2004, 08:45 AM

Good going Clive!!!

Very nice 60 ft time as well :)

Nearly in the 11's now!!!

Regards

Max

Glenn Butcher

23rd February 2004, 09:29 AM

TABLE UPDATED WITH A NEW NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done Clive!!!

What happened? - did you back off on the last run, your mph dropped off compared to the other runs.

.ps 11's next time out me thinks! :)

20B_boy

23rd February 2004, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by maximtaylor
Very nice 60 ft time as well :)

How do they compare to yours on D01Js mate?

John Yorke

23rd February 2004, 10:45 AM

Top Man:D
Nice to see our leader err.....................Lead:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Well done Clive, what tyres were you using?

maximtaylor

23rd February 2004, 11:07 AM

I managed a 1.99 on the Dunlops, so I'm looking forward to some drag tyres!

So Clive has bettered this by around 0.14 seconds quicker 60ft!!!

A slightly warmer track should see 11's no problem Clive.

Rotorstock is going to be a couple of days to remember for quick times, no doubt :)

Looking at the video, I think Danny swearing in surprise at Clive's launch sums it up pretty well ;)

Regards

Max

Originally posted by 20B_boy
How do they compare to yours on D01Js mate?

Carl

23rd February 2004, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by maximtaylor
I managed a 1.99 on the Dunlops, so I'm looking forward to some drag tyres!

So Clive has bettered this by around 0.4 seconds quicker 60ft!!!
That's years in 1/4 mile terms!

Max

Hi Max,
I think that Clive did a 1.83 60 ft,so that is only 0.16 better than yours.
Kind regards
Carl

Fish

23rd February 2004, 11:17 AM

I thought I said 'Didnt that launch well' ;):D :wave :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

Fish

maximtaylor

23rd February 2004, 12:07 PM

You are quite right Carl, monday morning and all that!!!

Misread numbers :(

Regards

Max

Originally posted by Carl
Hi Max,
I think that Clive did a 1.83 60 ft,so that is only 0.16 better than yours.
Kind regards
Carl

20B_boy

23rd February 2004, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by maximtaylor
Looking at the video, I think Danny swearing in surprise at Clive's launch sums it up pretty well ;)
Yeah, I've never seen or heard an FD take off that well at Pod before!! Even Sticky Steve "10 minute burn out" Cleary I've not seen get away like that - and he was killing most stuff off the line when we went last Oct or Nov...

Best get those road legal Nitos or Hoosiers delivered Maxim!

You kind of forget the excitement of Pod after a while, I'm glad we've been given a reminder! Ahh, the squirly stomach as you wait for the lights... ;-)

Carl

23rd February 2004, 01:00 PM

Hi Rich,
Does that not give you some incentive to get the triple sorted soon?
I hope so.
Kind regards
Carl

20B_boy

23rd February 2004, 02:57 PM

Indeed it does - not that I really need any more though!

Hope to have intake manifold/plenum and exhaust manifold fabrication completed in the next couple of weeks. Thats the last of the stuff that should hold things up for any length of time (famous last words!!). We can think about bolting in the ported motor then and starting to put stuff together with a view to turning the key. Of course it will take longer than envisaged (!) but I've waited this long, its a case of however long it takes - end of.

Look forward to the warmer days at pod, hopefully we should get some good turn outs and see lots of good times being run over the coming year.

bnaellis

23rd February 2004, 09:21 PM

Top man Clive,

You must be well chuffed. I just watched the video what a launch!
You did not sound like you were revving that high at take off what was your launch rpm ?
Quite obvious Danny was please with your launch:D

rgds

Carl

23rd February 2004, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by 20B_boy
Indeed it does - not that I really need any more though!

Hope to have intake manifold/plenum and exhaust manifold fabrication completed in the next couple of weeks. Thats the last of the stuff that should hold things up for any length of time (famous last words!!). We can think about bolting in the ported motor then and starting to put stuff together with a view to turning the key. Of course it will take longer than envisaged (!) but I've waited this long, its a case of however long it takes - end of.

Look forward to the warmer days at pod, hopefully we should get some good turn outs and see lots of good times being run over the coming year.

Great!!!Soon then?
We need you to set a great time that will really gee things up.
Kind regards
Carl

20B_boy

24th February 2004, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
Top man Clive,

You must be well chuffed. I just watched the video what a launch!
You did not sound like you were revving that high at take off what was your launch rpm ?
Quite obvious Danny was please with your launch:D

rgds
I thought it sounded high? usually expect to hear an FD unadvertently bouncing off the limit between early shifts due to skiddy pants but mello yello just gets up and hauls!

20B_boy

24th February 2004, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by Carl
Great!!!Soon then?
We need you to set a great time that will really gee things up.
I think there will be plenty cars faster than mine this year mate, but I certainly look forward to days at Pod later in the year.

Appreciate the kind words tho.

db2boy

24th February 2004, 08:34 AM

OK, maybe apart from some working eyes, what am I missing? Where are the vids guys?

Thanks

Ant

J4P RX

24th February 2004, 08:38 AM

Was on another thread.

Get it here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/danny.fisher310/Pictures/Pod/Clive_Strip.MOV)

10MB and in Quicktime.

Cheers
Lee

db2boy

24th February 2004, 08:48 AM

Ah ha, thanks :)

Ant

ScuttleRX

21st March 2004, 11:43 PM

Hi guys,

Got a 13.39 @ 109.8mph at the TSC@ RAF Woodbridge today. I have a slip but as you might have seen in other thread camera has given up ghost so will post it up when have a new one/repaired.

Street tyres, twin turb's, lot o wheelspin:D

cheers

Andy

richrx

21st March 2004, 11:52 PM

just curious, what power you got scuttle?

rik

ScuttleRX

21st March 2004, 11:59 PM

Haven't done a power run yet mate, had the car set up at WGT but their rollers only go up to 200bhp (i think) so didnt get the bhp (real reason is i was so knackered when i dropped car off i forgot to ask but then i found this out about the rollers at a later date!).

Its had Power FC, downpipe, cat back zaust, and apexi filters so id imagine its around the 300 mark at the flywheel, when the standard intercooler isnt heat soaked! (my next upgrade....)

first run i drove up to line and air intake temp was about 50+ when i was at starting line and i got a 14.12 (some of it was bad start as 1st ever run)
second run i left bonnet up, pushed the car till i was a couple from front and had an intake temp of low 30's and run the 13.39 sp def makes lot o difference.

Sorry, that was a bit of a long answer to a simple question :D

richrx

22nd March 2004, 01:02 AM

nah, exellent answer. full marks:D

sounds a good time for the power

rik

ScuttleRX

22nd March 2004, 01:07 AM

think there might be a little more in her, had a run with a great launch but missed 3rd gear (crunch!) and still ended up with 13.51, roll on santa pod..:D

richrx

22nd March 2004, 01:11 AM

nice:burnout

hope i can get some respectable figures in me rx when she's back

rik

ScuttleRX

22nd March 2004, 01:13 AM

cool :cool are you having anything done to it while its being rebuilt, bit of porting maybe?

richrx

22nd March 2004, 01:21 AM

a wee port on the exhaust for a touch more power, also an ecu and highly rated map.

hoping for 300bhp:d

tuning on a budget:rolleyes:

rik

ScuttleRX

22nd March 2004, 01:28 AM

tuning on a budget

lol, know that feeling, saying that I think barclaycard love me

richrx

22nd March 2004, 02:10 AM

lol i think tsb will be loving me soon enough:D

and i'll love those 0% balance transfers:rollin

so whens the MRC credit card comming out?

rik

ScuttleRX

23rd March 2004, 04:18 PM

can somebody put my time up please <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_2_49.gif' alt='Pretty Please' border=0></a>

Glenn Butcher

27th March 2004, 12:08 PM

Andy - just updated, sorry I just spotted this.

Gman

27th March 2004, 12:42 PM

Mine was a 13.85 @105 mph at the TSC at Woodbridge.

Also have been dyno'd at 235 hp at the wheels.

Carl

1st April 2004, 08:10 AM

Yesterday a new 1/4 mile time was set!!

Clive Haynsford went to LLoofaru Park Raceway in north Wales(This is a very good privately owned Drag strip) and set some amazing times!
On his first run he manged to do a 12.7 @ 118mph.
But then things started to really hot up!!
he did a 10.96 @137mph and backed this up with a 10.77 @142mph!!
The best was yet to come though,he then turned on the Nos and managed a 9.98 @ 156mph!!!!!!!:D :eek: But the engine popped going over the line:reallymad .
Still that was a really fantastic time and WELL DONE CLIVE!!!!:wave

I will let Clive tell you how it felt.(Suffice it to say it was scary!)

We are hoping the carbon fibre apex seals are still intact and can retrieve them for the rebuild.
We were using a 12a for this attempt.Why you may ask.
It is because we are able to rev it to 14300 rpm.
We used the same type of tyres that are used in Top Fuel for the amazing traction they provide.They are completely slick.
We also had 2 gt 85 /105 turbo's which on the dyno produced 775hp at 13000 rpm.Without the Nos turned on!

We would like to thank the Mr Foulu and Cogyo gearbox makers in Japan for loaning us a new experimental 7 speed gearbox for the attempt,we now have to ship it back to Sukor in Japan.

The attempt was witnessed by Myself,Danny,Steve and Nigel of D.S. Engineering and Mr Haru Takenin (Engine specailist from Mazda Japan).
Danny,did those pics come out?Did you get the wheelstand?
Overall we are really pleased with the results.
We need sponsorship though,please everyone,we have run out of money for the continuance of this project.

As Rotorstock is fast looming we are asking that the membership help us with a donation of at least £10.00 from each member to get us ready in time for that event.Please help!

We need this car to show other Japanese cars what we can do.

Anyway I will let the others air their thoughts on the days activities.

Well done Clive!!(You Should see Clives smile)
We hope you are as pleased as we are!

Kind regards
Carl:D

A7NTY

1st April 2004, 08:18 AM

Blo*dy hell....

Can you add me to the table.

Sterte Garage (Ant Fleming)

12.76 @ 116mph - TSC IV 21st March 2004

Dyno 355.3bhp at the rear hubs....

Ant.

20B_boy

1st April 2004, 08:20 AM

Blimey!! NOS!

Must've been those tyres again...:bandit

iaint

1st April 2004, 08:27 AM

Nice one Carl!

Laying down the gauntlet for Rotorstock. Bring it on baby! Lets hope the sponsership get sorted!

:burnout :god

Iain

A7NTY

1st April 2004, 08:28 AM

Just had an email from Carl seems it was serious.... :eek: :eek:

J4P RX

1st April 2004, 08:38 AM

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21209 :rollin

I cant wait for replies.

A7NTY

1st April 2004, 08:39 AM

That will be so funny, just imagine them CR*PPING THENSELVES!!!!

Ant.

iaint

1st April 2004, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by iaint
Nice one Carl!

Laying down the gauntlet for Rotorstock. Bring it on baby! Lets hope the sponsership get sorted!

Iain

can a mod delete this and the next one... I'm having a blonde moment...

Iain

iaint

1st April 2004, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by iaint
Nice one Carl!

Laying down the gauntlet for Rotorstock. Bring it on baby! Lets hope the sponsership get sorted!

:god :burnout

Iain

bnaellis

1st April 2004, 09:00 AM

On Sunday me and Tim from rxmotors went to avon park raceway
he took his 604bhp at the flywheel 12 turbo and I took my white bridge port. He clocked 8.47 sec 1/4 mile at 148mph I clock 10.21 sec 1/4 at 144mph. Things are truly hotting up.# indeed.

A7NTY

1st April 2004, 09:09 AM

Yes and last Starsday I took my 8 rotor 14 turbo 10,000,000bhp fiesta to the NASA runway in florida, managed a 0.3 sec quarter mile at 14,000mph before I left the atmosphere.

Carl

1st April 2004, 09:15 AM

"On sunday me and Tim"etc.....

Yes,that was right,
I was there,fortuanatly we have the whole run on film,the landrover we had hired to do the filming enabled us to keep ahead of you both during the run.
Some people might think(Brian)that it was in slow motion,but no it wasn't,the whole run took 10.21 minutes to film,especialy for you Brian.

Kind regards
Carl

Carl

1st April 2004, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by A7NTY
Yes and last Starsday I took my 8 rotor 14 turbo 10,000,000bhp fiesta to the NASA runway in florida, managed a 0.3 sec quarter mile at 14,000mph before I left the atmosphere.

Yes the Fiesta was attached to the space shuttle at the time!
Carl

BlitzBoy

1st April 2004, 09:18 AM

Carl that is quite a good APRIL FOOLS lol:rollin

Someone has already played some pranks on me already!!!!

scooby_si

1st April 2004, 10:25 AM

just replied on FDUK to this, :rollin lmao, my favourite bit is "we now have to ship it back to Sukor in Japan." sucker :p lol
Si

J4P RX

1st April 2004, 10:45 AM

GTR thread is pretty funny now

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?s=&postid=182775#post182775

Didnt realise there was so many small clues. Thats nicely done :)

A7NTY

2nd April 2004, 07:47 AM

Can you add me to the table.

Sterte Garage (Ant Fleming)

12.76 @ 116mph - TSC IV 21st March 2004

Dyno 355.3bhp at the rear hubs....

Ant.

bobster

19th April 2004, 08:58 PM

Go on then....pop us on the list.

13.927 sec
0 sec
2.362 sec
101.6 mph
Crail Raceway......(home of the fastest off road RX7:D) The surface has alot to be desired

1993 FD .... stock twin turbo

mapping by Robbie Calder

clive

25th April 2004, 05:43 PM

Good news from Santa Pod,

Tim has run a 12.26

@114.53 with his 12A powered Gen1

As there were more Rotarys running I am sure there will more times posted later tonight.

Well done Tim, 11's next week then:) :) :)

scooby_si

25th April 2004, 06:43 PM

twas impressive & i'm sure another MRCer will be along shortly to gloat about his 12 second time :god
Was hoping to see more of you folks there but none the less good to see a few rotary beasties strutting their stuff <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_11.gif' border=0></a>
Si (AKA jealous)

clive

25th April 2004, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by scooby_si
twas impressive & i'm sure another MRCer will be along shortly to gloat about his 12 second time :god
Was hoping to see more of you folks there but none the less good to see a few rotary beasties strutting their stuff <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_11.gif' border=0></a>
Si (AKA jealous)

We need 11's so we can get em on the 'Star Car' list.

antnicuk

25th April 2004, 07:33 PM

I must have left before tim pulled that one off. He had just done 12.5 at 114mph on his second run with his massive hoosier tyres.

I think Si means me, I managed a 12.5 at 113mph, on road gas and cheap nasty road tyres, gonna get me a set of those Dunlops, they look sticky.

I havent stopped grinning yet, i am running a conservative map at 14psi so i can go a little more.

Not bad for my first run on my my engine build!

Thanks Jason (JAYDEE) for mapping on saturday morning, ready for the pod. You did a great job, and thanks for the loan of your Twin power.

Could someone please add me to the list, ......please...please..please....
Single turbo FD TO4E, built by me and tuned by Jason JayDee.

Timrxmotors

25th April 2004, 07:37 PM

Yes,12.5 and a 12.4,then 12.266,and more to come with better boost control,and better launches.Clive,what was your best 60ft time? mine was 2 seconds.Brian,where were you?I had 8 runs and beat everything that went beside me,including Ross from 'Dragon' in his customers Toyota supra! Please someone update the 1/4 mile table,please,please.

Carl

25th April 2004, 07:38 PM

Well done all you guy's!!!
Hopefully we will have some 11's soon!
Tim's time is absolutely fantastic for a 12a!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Kind regards
Carl

maximtaylor

25th April 2004, 07:52 PM

Nice one fella's!!! Deep into the 12's!!

Unfortunately I had no joy today, only did two runs, first warm up one 12.61, second one messed up well and truly. Then the queues got huge, and I had to leave at 1.00.

I wish the day had not been so busy, I might have had more luck after a few more runs, until next time then :(

Regards

Max

clive

25th April 2004, 08:11 PM

Well Done Tim, Ant ( with your own engine) and Max but what times did Steve C do?

Tim all my runs are on page 7 of this thread

But Details from the quicker run are as follows

Reaction / .667 [ I'm getting old ]

60ft / 1.831

330ft / 5.098

1/8th ET / 7.809

1/8th mph / 88.71

1/4 ET / 12.207

1/4mph / 111.71

You should easily beat this next time out though, :wave

JayDee

25th April 2004, 08:24 PM

I havent stopped grinning yet, i am running a conservative map at 14psi so i can go a little more.

Not bad for my first run on my my engine build!

Thanks Jason (JAYDEE) for mapping on saturday morning, ready for the pod. You did a great job, and thanks for the loan of your Twin power.

Could someone please add me to the list, ......please...please..please....
Single turbo FD TO4E, built by me and tuned by Jason JayDee.

Well done Tony, we will have to meet up soon to finish it off, you are missing quite alot of power, by what I have found in your tuning logs ;)

Get rid of those ditch finders:rollin and you should have an high 11 sec car next time.

Jaydee

20B_boy

25th April 2004, 08:27 PM

Looked a totally different ball game on slicks mate! I think a fair amount of practise is required to get using them down to a tee. The fact that u beat your best time on d01j's on your first run with no burnout out and the rear end jumping up and down suggests you'll cruise into the 11s. After taking the pressures down that bit the side walls still seemed to have fairly minimal give in them still, I guess you learn by experience - we'll have a better starting point next time.

All in I think both guys acquited them selves pretty well for their first outing on slicks - I can imagine its a totally different ball game! Especially Tim though - hats off matey! Equalled his best time on street tyres of 13.1 on his first run and went on to take nearly a second off that over the course of the day! That was some feat just to manage 3 or 4 more runs considering the ques and organisation were the worst I've seen at that place - I really hope Shakespear is a more professional setup :( Max struggled to get 2 runs in between 9.30 and about 1. Considering they are meant to sign on a max of 200 cars? Yeah, right....

Still that poor guy in his Noble on the way up made me laugh :D Thought he'd kill a couple of FD's - picked on the wrong one though! Found himself with a silver FD attached to his arse and just had to pull over and admit defeat in the end - good flamage bud! :rollin :rollin

Carl

25th April 2004, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by maximtaylor

Unfortunately I had no joy today, only did two runs, first warm up one 12.61, second one messed up well and truly. Then the queues got huge, and I had to leave at 1.00.

Regards

Max

Well done Max! Soon be an 11!
Hopefully I'll be there soon too.
Kind regards
Carl

JayDee

25th April 2004, 08:51 PM

Well done Tim, you still got to use your power adder yet:D

Jaydee

maximtaylor

25th April 2004, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by 20B_boy

Still that poor guy in his Noble on the way up made me laugh :D Thought he'd kill a couple of FD's - picked on the wrong one though! Found himself with a silver FD attached to his arse and just had to pull over and admit defeat in the end - good flamage bud! :rollin :rollin

Oh, the satisfaction of that 'almost' made up for Pod mate!

I've just had a good chuckle reading this:

NOBLE M12 GTO

Britain's best sports car?
0-60 mph in 3.9 seconds, 160 mph - so said Autocar in pre-viewing their full road test of the M12 GTO.

Autocar continued, "The M12's standing start acceleration is only just on the comfortable side of sane. If you pay the right money there are faster cars out there. But only a few. But none matches the drama of the M12. At the price the M12 would be considered a fantastic bargain on its sprinting ability alone. And perhaps if that were all there was to it, every other specialist sports car manufacturer with a product hovering around the mid - 40 grand mark could settle down for a solid night's slumber. But the M12 is more than merely quick. Isolate this machines two most crucial tasks, delivering straight - line performance and cornering ability and its difficult to say which it does better.

In short the Noble M12 is blessed with a peach of a chassis. Perhaps this cars most astonishing feature is outright grip. Mechanical grip in the dry is staggering and I have never driven a road car with stronger wet weather adhesion. It truly is astonishing."

Autocar

And Max says - "And you STILL got yer ass wooped"

:spank

bnaellis

25th April 2004, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Timrxmotors
Yes,12.5 and a 12.4,then 12.266,and more to come with better boost control,and better launches.Clive,what was your best 60ft time? mine was 2 seconds.Brian,where were you?I had 8 runs and beat everything that went beside me,including Ross from 'Dragon' in his customers Toyota supra! Please someone update the 1/4 mile table,please,please.

Well done Tim,

I was in bed:D nO when I left from mapping down by you the other day, at 5,000 rpm in 3rd I had a mis and blew the fuse for all the electronic gauges I was telling you about. I left Bolney and at 5,000 rpm in 3rd same mis but this time no blown fuses. So until I sort this out I thought best not to go pod. I suspect it maybe something to do with the apexi. I think the boost settings is lower than what I have on the boost controller, so it's boost cut I experience at 5,000 rpm in 3rd. I will take the car out on the motorway for some more mapping and will make sure the boost setting on the apexi is higher than that if the boost controller and it will atleast eliminate this as being at fault. If not I have a grounding issue with some wire. I will be at pod on the 3rd of May though you coming??

rgds

scooby_si

25th April 2004, 09:32 PM

lol all good stuff & shame i missed a few of you folks http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/sarge/Sad_anim.gif & as you say Clive i was hoping to see 11's from the rotors but never mind still got better times than the scooby folks i was with in the main so i can still hold my head up <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_18_5.gif' border=0></a>
Si

bnaellis

25th April 2004, 09:38 PM

Who's got a list of everyones times ???

Carl

3rd May 2004, 04:27 PM

TIM WHITE IN THE 11'S!!!!
:D
Some great news!
Tim white of RX motors has done an 11.897 @ 118.4 mph today at the Pod.
Congratulatuions on doing this in a 1st gen RX7 with a 12a running a Garrett 35/40 turbo!
That means that Tim is in our invited car list for Rotorstock!
Well done Tim,Much deserved to be the first rotary road car in the UK in the 11's.
Kind regards
Carl:cheers :cheers :cheers :guinness :wave

MikeLMR

3rd May 2004, 04:30 PM

Spot on :yes ... how did everyone else get on ?

DRAGON

3rd May 2004, 04:33 PM

Well-done Tim, you GIT.

20B_boy

3rd May 2004, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by DRAGON
Well-done Tim, you GIT.
Hahahahahaha! :rollin :rollin :rollin

WELL DONE Tim!!!!

Ross - you're only interested in 10s any way arent you? :)

maximtaylor

3rd May 2004, 07:11 PM

Excellent work Tim!

I took one look out the window this morning and thought there was no way that Pod would be dry enough to run today.

Glad you proved me wrong!

Max

clive

3rd May 2004, 07:12 PM

Well done Tim, :D :D

Real pleased for you and the club, as we can all be pleased that we will have at least one Rotary on the '' invited Star car'' list. :) :) :)

p.s. l will update the Star list.

Carl

3rd May 2004, 07:21 PM

Sadly Brian has broken something in the drivetrain on his first burnout run,maybe the diff or axles.
As there were some quick cars there today they put alot of the sticky stuff down.
Later on Tim also broke his axles or diff or something too.
They must have put something mighty grippy on the track,you don't mind if it was allways like this but when it catches you out it is a pain.
Stiil,as I said to Tim and he agreed,"Who Cares,He has done it!That is what counts!!!
Fantastic result.
Kind regards
Carl:D :D :D :D :D :cool :cool :cool

antnicuk

3rd May 2004, 07:29 PM

Tim,
I knew you could do it. What has changed since last week, or was it the supergrippy track that did it. Or was it a little compressed laughing gas that did the trick?

Regards
tony

20B_boy

3rd May 2004, 07:42 PM

Getting used to launching on slicks I wouldnt wonder - Max had a bit of a shock on his 2 runs on them...

Also, a lot of experience counts; Ant spend laods of runs learning how to hook it up properly in order to pull a 12.7 ages back. Practise counts for a lot...

db2boy

3rd May 2004, 08:05 PM

Super news Tim and big congrats! Time to start getting serious about times then!

Hooking up is an art form, although at Santa Pod it always seems to be bloody hit and miss :( Sounds like the boys had some super sticky grip today.

Rgds

Ant

scooby_si

3rd May 2004, 08:14 PM

Well done that man <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_1.gif' border=0></a>
Group buy on glue for shakespears RX7 lane? http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/otn/wink/wink2.gif lol
Did Tim have the naaawwwsss plugged in for this one then, i guess not?
Si

clive

3rd May 2004, 08:21 PM

Here you go Tim, your added on the ''big boys' list now :D

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=36317#post36317

BlitzBoy

3rd May 2004, 08:57 PM

I saw Tim do that run, his car just leapt off that start line and tore up the strip. When I told him his time when he got back to the fire up lane you should have saw the smile on his face!

bnaellis

3rd May 2004, 09:22 PM

Tim's the man,

As we lined up on the drag strip I did a burnout and ripped the main shaft in the diff. It was left lying on the floor with great pool of oil. Was well cheesed off after waiting from 08:45 to 15:45 to finally get a run. Times run was awesome though he really let rip.
His times were consistent 12.1 12.2's 12.3 12.4 etc etc
Unfortunately Tim killed his diff too. Next time they put glue down for the top fuel cars, I won't do a burnout.
Still a good day though despite having to pay over £500 to get my car towed to Blanford ouch.
As Arnold said I'll be back.

rgds

BlitzBoy

3rd May 2004, 09:37 PM

ahh Brian I feel for ya man, nice meeting u, the car sounded awesome before it broke, even the commentator in the box said your car sounded real strong as u lined up, yeah the glue can be tough on diffs that have a weak spot, my mates 200sx was getting more grip then he is used to so he found he was bogging down even though he was launching at 5000rpm!! lucky for him he changed his diff oil recently to the redline shockproof stuff.
Hopefully u will get a replacement Diff soon, I think Ross and JIMMYS have diffs in stock.

bnaellis

3rd May 2004, 09:45 PM

Hi Mark,

Was good to meet you too mate.
Yeah it was a shame, especially as I was looking forward to whooping Tim's purple peril. I guess in the end he won the battle but we both lost the war so to speak.
Car running perfect, I was expecting a really quick time. Hopefully I'll be back in action on the 15th.

rgds

maximtaylor

3rd May 2004, 10:31 PM

Crikey brian, the MAIN shaft? Not one of the two drives to the wheels then? I thought one of them might go first :(

Next time mate, next time.....

Thats 3 of us that have ruined our drivetrains at Pod now ;)

Max (now with Kaaz diff and wondering if that's enough...)

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
Tim's the man,

As we lined up on the drag strip I did a burnout and ripped the main shaft in the diff. It was left lying on the floor with great pool of oil. Was well cheesed off after waiting from 08:45 to 15:45 to finally get a run. Times run was awesome though he really let rip.
His times were consistent 12.1 12.2's 12.3 12.4 etc etc
Unfortunately Tim killed his diff too. Next time they put glue down for the top fuel cars, I won't do a burnout.
Still a good day though despite having to pay over £500 to get my car towed to Blanford ouch.
As Arnold said I'll be back.

rgds

Glenn Butcher

4th May 2004, 05:53 AM

Well done Tim! top job mate.

I have now updated the table also.

20B_boy

4th May 2004, 07:24 AM

Max ran a 12.61-some thing the other week...

Glenn Butcher

4th May 2004, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by 20B_boy
Max ran a 12.61-some thing the other week...

NOW you tell me :)

Max, post all the details and I'll update the table later tonight.

bnaellis

4th May 2004, 08:38 AM

Hi Max,

How much was the Kaaz diff ? & where from ? & how long did you have to wait ?

rgds

20B_boy

4th May 2004, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by gbutcher
NOW you tell me :)

Max, post all the details and I'll update the table later tonight.
Sorry mate, I know what a ball ache updating that table must be! I'm frightened to try :) I'm sure Max wont mind you waiting til the next round of updates...!

20B_boy

4th May 2004, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
Hi Max,

How much was the Kaaz diff ? & where from ? & how long did you have to wait ?

rgds
Forget how much, but it came from www.coordsport.co.uk

Think it took a few weeks to turn up from recollection...

JayDee

4th May 2004, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by antnicuk

I think Si means me, I managed a 12.5 at 113mph, on road gas and cheap nasty road tyres, gonna get me a set of those Dunlops, they look sticky.

I havent stopped grinning yet, i am running a conservative map at 14psi so i can go a little more.

Not bad for my first run on my my engine build!

Thanks Jason (JAYDEE) for mapping on saturday morning, ready for the pod. You did a great job, and thanks for the loan of your Twin power.

Could someone please add me to the list, ......please...please..please....
Single turbo FD TO4E, built by me and tuned by Jason JayDee. [/B]

Glenn could you add Tony to the list.

Jason

maximtaylor

4th May 2004, 09:56 AM

Can't remember the price, but it was a damned sight cheaper than the Cusco! Speak to Rich at Coordsport, please mention my name to him, it'll help the price a little :)

Time slip Glenn:

Actually, hardly any different to the last one!

1.951 60ft
5.413 330 ft
8.287 1/8 ET
88.92 1/8 MPH
12.621 1/4 ET
111.67 MPH

Wow, knocked .004 seconds of the last run :(

Regards

Max

20B_boy

4th May 2004, 10:21 AM

Ahh, sorry Max - thought it was a 12.61...

Glenn Butcher

4th May 2004, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by JayDee
Glenn could you add Tony to the list.

Jason

Hi Jason,

Sorry about that! done now.

Glenn Butcher

4th May 2004, 11:12 AM

BTW - I think it is the guys with the big mph that you all have to look out for :)

20B_boy

4th May 2004, 11:22 AM

One last minor amendment Glenn - I think Tim's car was tuned by Geff...

Glenn Butcher

4th May 2004, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by 20B_boy
One last minor amendment Glenn - I think Tim's car was tuned by Geff...

Done - but that is it for now!

.ps I wish these guys that actually run the times would come forward themselves with the information ;)

Glenn Butcher

4th May 2004, 12:10 PM

I SPLIT all the chat about the 1/4 times (but wanted to keep the details on the Forum).

Timrxmotors

4th May 2004, 07:34 PM

Yes, I am very pleased with 11.8 1/4 time,still laughing a day later!I know it will go faster,my 60ft time was 2.1 secs,slow,but made the 1/8 mile in 7.8 secs,snaking up the strip.No nos,I am saving that for Rotorstock! No intercooler,and my water injection wasn't working.Did 7 runs,on the last one there was a loud bang whilst in 2nd gear,and I lost drive.Had a look today,and the end of an axle shaft has twisted off.Many thanks to Brian,who persuaded me to stay,I was going to go home at midday because I thought there was no way they could dry the track,but they did,And most people had gone home.Brian,I have a gear wheel from the limited slip part of your diff,with the teeth shredded,found it under your car! Any FD's for a race?

bnaellis

4th May 2004, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Timrxmotors
Many thanks to Brian,who persuaded me to stay,I was going to go home at midday because I thought there was no way they could dry the track,but they did,And most people had gone home.Brian,I have a gear wheel from the limited slip part of your diff,with the teeth shredded,found it under your car! Any FD's for a race?

Does that mean i'm invited to rotorstock too, for persuading you to stay?

rgds

scooby_si

4th May 2004, 08:09 PM

Sounded more like an invite to pay for his broken bits to me http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/cwm/cwm/laugh.gif lol
Si

20B_boy

4th May 2004, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Timrxmotors
Yes, I am very pleased with 11.8 1/4 time,still laughing a day later!

Here's Tim's wagon for those that havent seen her:

scooby_si

5th May 2004, 05:58 AM

Tim's really does take the pea i mean he's bound to get pulled for the dodgy font use on his plate http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/ups/fireslash/wink.gif
Si

bnaellis

5th May 2004, 09:16 PM

You better watchout Tim I been practising I just got a 10.44 sec 1/4 mile :bandit
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/dragrace3.html

jay

5th May 2004, 09:19 PM

Brian you have PM.
Cheers Jay...:wave

Cycaduk

12th May 2004, 11:26 AM

Would a supercharger be a better bet than aturbo-charger over 1/4 mile? Shouldn't have any turbolag etc.

Glenn Butcher

12th May 2004, 11:45 AM

There have only been a few people who have really got to grips with the supercharger and a rotary.

It WILL work - for sure, you are right there won't be much lag but like all these things they have to be set-up correctly. I know of a guy who is building a properly supercharged RX-7 which should run 8 second 1/4 miles.

Archbish

12th May 2004, 12:02 PM

Because here we are struggling to get any cars under 12 secs, yet they appear to be able to whizz cars up the strip in under 11 secs, and some in single figures!

Do they accept regular rebuilds as par for the course? or do they simply throw loads more money at these things? if so, what components are so different? And what about drivetrain??

Are the oz cars purely for the strip, and completely undrivable on the road? This seems very bizarre that we destroy engines as they head toward 500hp, and they don't...

Glenn Butcher

12th May 2004, 12:22 PM

Hi OJ!

Many cars are just dedicated drag cars, and some are driven on the street.

Drag Racing is BIG in OZ, and getting bigger all the time. In Sydney there is now a dedicated drag strip that runs EVERY Wednesday night (weather permitting) for street cars. Melbourne (Victoria) has been ahead of Sydney (NSW) for quite some time, but I think they are now pretty even (they had proper 1/4 tracks long ago). A Guy called Wayne Dyson (Victorian) had run a 9.7 @ 146mph (not sure on exact mph) in the early 1990's!

I think it comes down to the fact that Oz is still around 5 years ahead on the rotary scene compared to the UK.

We have 15+ rotary specialists around the country, some good and some not so good, but probably all with a car that runs either in the single figures on the 1/4 or very close.

One example I used to try and explain to someone over there (think it was at a pub meet) was that when you went to school as a lad in OZ, you knew exactly what a rotary was (and I'm going back to when I was in school) way back around 1986. This is probably the case even more so with rotaries very close to running 6 second 1/4's.

Don't forget many of the street cars running quick Quarter mile times are old/light 20+year old cars, with proper drivetrains etc. Most of the FD's running at the drags are all half chassis cars with bullet proof drivelines etc. This is a new area that the UK will have to move into on the rotary front to start running single figure quarter mile times.

UK will get there - no doubt, things like ROTORSTOCK will certainly help it, and mazdarotaryclub.com etc. etc. will take time.

It's in the blood in OZ! :)

Archbish

12th May 2004, 01:34 PM

Glenn - thanks for the reply, but missed a couple of points...

these street cars - are they getting reliable engines with that power, that last for a significant time, or are they rebuilt every 10k? What kinda times are these street cars running - are we 1 - 2 seconds behind, or 5 - 6 (I know the 1 or 2 secs are still a huge mountain to climb...). Are they nitrousing, or huge singles, or clever hybrids? what is being done over there that is so different here, or is it simply a case of map development?

Glenn Butcher

12th May 2004, 01:58 PM

Hi mate,

Generally speaking, I would say they are getting big reliable hp. But don't forget the cars are light, which makes a big difference to times run. I have read quite a bit on www.ausrotary.com about this particular subject and many of them are getting 2 years out of an engine. I'm also sure that there would be a number of cars that do go through engines quite a bit. But all the larger hp cars now would have dowelled engines, very good maps with large turbos running low-ish boost.

Not that many using NOS, hardly any using Water Injection (just large front mounts) - mind you they wouldn't be doing a lot of circuit racing!, yes - generally big single turbos TA45's, and hybrid's that match the engine nicely (many T04's are used - with large compressor and exhaust housings).

Mapping would obviously very important, good mapping would be something that has been done for a 5 years plus here - so maybe a little more knowledge there also.

As for times, there are loads of street cars in the 9's, 10's, 11's etc. these range from the Old School RX-2's, RX-3's, RX-4's, 1st generation RX-7's, there are a few 2nd gen. RX-7's running 11's (everyday drivers that I know of), and a few 10, 11 second 3rd gens. which are also everyday drivers. Then the 6,7,8 second cars that are really full-on drag cars.

Videos on these sites will give you are great idea as to what the scene is like here:
www.realper4mance.com
www.mazdarotary.net
www.hioctane.com.au/videos/

Nice example vid. of an RX-3: http://www.realper4mance.com/video/wsid_10032004/realper4mance_wsid10032004_Hektyk.mpg check out the burnout!! :)

Glenn Butcher

12th May 2004, 02:00 PM

BTW... most are running Auto's!

20B_boy

12th May 2004, 02:21 PM

Like u say, it seems half the RX2's and 3's etc are 10 or faster cars. But then an RX3 weighs what, 800kg? BIG difference that...Nothing from the aussies (and yanks) though, they know their stuff and have done the development work for a lot of others around the world. Dyson is a great example, thats 15 years ago nearly! That thread you posted about on ausR a while back - reminiscing about the 80s and 90s - its frightening how quick they were running back then - a lot of them N/A and carb'd of course.

Its such a shame the UK is so comparably uninterested in the drags. Man, can u imagine hooking up with yer mates every wednesday night for a few runs? Awesome :) You can imagine how quick things would develop that way...

sadgoth

13th May 2004, 09:08 AM

Thing is Rich, the love of drag racing came from the US love with street racing and hogh power big block muscle cars with no handling ability. The Aussies have a similar thought process, look at the Falcons & Holdens, big block high power! In Europe we have always been into handling so drag racing isn't that big. Shame as u say, we are catching up though, more and more drag strips are opening so we'll get there. What we are realising is that drag and circuit racing are very different but equally fun! Dare I say it, but films like the Fast & the Furious do help raise the profile of drag racing street cars!

Anyway lecture over, I'll climb back into my cave now!

sadgoth

13th May 2004, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
You better watchout Tim I been practising I just got a 10.44 sec 1/4 mile :bandit
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/dragrace3.html

Brian, u just wait till I can spec the Gen II to the same level as the one I have just done a 9.54 in! :rollin

J4P RX

13th May 2004, 10:06 AM

As much as I enjoy seeing the times and the competition getting better, I really couldnt care less for drag racing. Especially when it gets to a stage where the car cant be run in the same spec on the street, even if it is technically legal.

I tend to look more at the speeds these days than the 1/4 time itself.

Lee

Glenn Butcher

13th May 2004, 10:45 AM

Hi all,

Rich, yep - you mean this thread: http://ausrotary.dntinternet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13713 there are still a number of rotors here running na engines in the 12's, 13's and a couple in the 11's. The older cars are light though, and we have more of them here (early RX's).

Lee - I started off with drag racing, absolutely loved it, still do. Nothing like going out to a meeting with 5000, 10000 people all watching you go down the strip. Move through the staging lanes, do the big burnout, go for it on the run.

Some people say there isn't any skill to it, but believe me there is!

I do prefer circuit racing now - hence the build of my www.4rotor.com - but I will still be getting down the strip, you just can't beat that buzz.

Legality on cars doesn't even come into it after a while, you want to see cars running faster and faster. In Oz around 10 years ago everyone was saying, oh that isn't a street car etc. I don't think anyone cares about that now. It just evolved.

MikeLMR

13th May 2004, 10:54 AM

big difference between the UK and OZ (well most of it) ... the weather ! if we had a drag strip open that much in the UK it would be rained off every other week. And if you notice drag racing is big in the USA but only really in the warmer drier areas.

J4P RX

13th May 2004, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by gbutcher

Lee - I started off with drag racing, absolutely loved it, still do. Nothing like going out to a meeting with 5000, 10000 people all watching you go down the strip. Move through the staging lanes, do the big burnout, go for it on the run.

Some people say there isn't any skill to it, but believe me there is!

Aye, you wont find me slagging it off or saying theres no skill. I know it better than that. I started off attending race circuits and racing karts though. I like tracks :)

Its all stupidly expensive though :(

Miniwilliams

21st May 2004, 09:45 PM

Hi

Here are some pictures from a day out at Avon park, With Gary RX7 (I hope there are the ones you meant Carl;))

Gary was having real Problems getting the car off the Line with it either spinning or bogging down. It looked slow untill about Half way down the track, then it really started to go.

I took the Pictures and i hope to be at rotorstock (if any ones heard of that around here ;) (silly me) And will be taking the pictuers for the web site hopefuly.

http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/1.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/2.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/3.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/4.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/5.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/6.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/7.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/8.jpg
http://www.miniwilliams.co.uk/p/rx7/9.jpg