Special New Rotary only Mineral oil

[Mazdarotaryparts]

We are pleased to announce today that after working with the Prolong oil company Prolong and MRP will be selling an oil that we believe will make a major difference to all owners of Rotarys.

MRP have put a lot of research into this new oil which IS a mineral oil but with all the capabilities of the very best synthetic oils on the market and not only that the properties of this oil are so good it can be used as an Engine Oil, a Gear Box Oil and a Differential Oil all out of one can indeed this oil has made the claim of being,

THE WORLD’S MOST POWERFUL MOTOR OIL!

A claim that has been substantiated in the highest court in America, not that it is the only oil to come with a free lifetime engine warranty covering all lubricated parts.

Many of you know that the problem with all synthetic based oils in Rotarys is that they do not burn off inside the Rotary chamber leading to very harmful carbon build up which is why Mazda only advise Mineral oil ONLY, which is exactly what Prolong is and why it will burn off correctly inside your Rotary Engine.

As many of you will also know All Rotarys have oil coolers because the oil must stay cool because Rotary derives a lot of it's cooling capabilities from the Oil in conjunction with the water system and with Prolong the Oil system will operate at a kinder lower Oil temperature.

We at MRP also believe that Prolong Rotary Oil will also significantly lower Apex seal wear that leads to poor engine compression due to it's superior lubricating qualities indeed Prolong will warrenty Apex seal wear if the failure is due poor lubrication caused by Prolong.

The Prolong warrentys have been in operation for many years and is in the sumps of many thousands of engines and they have never recived a claim, and these same lubrication qualities are carried over into this new Rotary Oil.

We beleive this Oil will mark a significant step forward in lengthening the life of the Rotary as well as giving a slight Power increase and also potentialy a fuel consumption increase as we have found whilst testing Prolong Rotary Oil in our own RX-8.

If you would like to purchase this Oil which MRP will be the only Rotary supplier and find out more information please follow this link to our shop. This oil is available for all models and is listed in the Service Items and Cooling & Engine sections in each of the model catagory sections.

http://www.mazdarotaryparts.com/bfe--si01-rotary-engine-formula-motor-oilb-1363-p.asp

Lastly if MRC is indicated in the purchase on our shop a Free Oil filter will be included with each completed order.

[ro284]

Can this be used as a premix, any info on this as yet?
Thanks Bob

[Mazdarotaryparts]

Can this be used as a premix, any info on this as yet?
Thanks Bob

Hi Bob,

Yes it can be used as a pre-mix, however we beleive this oil is that good and that compatable with Rotarys that the need to go pre-mix is completly eliminated.


Hope this helps

[BlitzBoy]

so for people who have had their OMP removed you are saying they can run without premix?
So if the engine blows due to an oil lube problem due to not running premix or OMP Prolong will pay for the rebuild?
or are you saying if people are thinking to taking the omp off and run premix this is not necessary?

[AshRX]

i run premix like Mark and a few others so it would be a bonus if we didnt have to run it.

But as Mark said , if we got an engine failure due to oil problem they will pay out?

[Mazdarotaryparts]

so for people who have had their OMP removed you are saying they can run without premix?
So if the engine blows due to an oil lube problem due to not running premix or OMP Prolong will pay for the rebuild?
or are you saying if people are thinking to taking the omp off and run premix this is not necessary?


The reason you would take off your oil metering pump is so you can put some real oil in the sump so obviously what I am saying is that you can now leave your oil metering pump in place and operational, because now you can use Mineral Prolong just as Mazda recommends using Mineral but with all the advantages of fully synthetic Oil.

[BlitzBoy]

well the main reason I took off the OMP that it could not keep up with the oil demands of running over 450rwhp as it just dribbles oil onto the centre of the Apex seal hence some reasons for warpage, obviously premix makes sure the oil is evenly distrubuted on the seals via the fuel injectors.
OMP is fine for moderate power levels, but for us guys without OMPs installed and running high power if we use this oil we should still run premix as well.
I will probably buy this oil anyway as it seems to be a very good mineral engine oil

[sadgoth]

The reason you would take off your oil metering pump is so you can put some real oil in the sump so obviously what I am saying is that you can now leave your oil metering pump in place and operational, because now you can use Mineral Prolong just as Mazda recommends using Mineral but with all the advantages of fully synthetic Oil.

As I am a Microtech user (i.e. no OMP control) I have to run premix, would using Prolong as lube and premix be worth it, or should I just use a cheap 2 stroke for the premix?

[BlitzBoy]

would using Prolong as lube and premix be worth it, or should I just use a cheap 2 stroke for the premix?

good question Mark didnt think of my wallet there lol

[rs200tez]

Is Prolong recommended for Single Turbo, high power rotaries - say 450BHP??

[Mazdarotaryparts]

Is Prolong recommended for Single Turbo, high power rotaries - say 450BHP??


Yes,

One of the reasons we started looking at this before it came on the market is because it had never seemed quite right to put standard Mineral oil in any Turbo rotary let alone big power power as we knew normal Mineral would only offer basic protection for the Turbo,

With Prolong Mineral oil you will have all the protection that a good quality fully synthetic oil would offer your turbo but in a Mineral oil,

Here you go, in stock and with a free oil filter and sump plug washer ATM

http://www.mazdarotaryparts.com/bfe--si01-rotary-engine-formula-motor-oilb-1363-p.asp

Hope this helps,

[rs200tez]

Excellent - thanks for the prompt reply; buying now!

[johnm]

On a mostly standard FD what frequency of oil change out is need? Are we still changing every 20-30,000 miles?

[ro284]

Are we still changing every 20-30,000 miles? no every 1000miles for mine! i would think most guys ghange around every 2000 miles on average, from what ive read, i don't do high mileage so once a year basically,
Bob

[johnm]

Thinking more specific to to this oil as it £50 odd per change, compared to £15-20. Use car every day so doing 8-10k per year.

Just noticed the oil change frequency should have read 2-3,000 not 20-30,000.

[Twilight]

MRP have put a lot of research into this new oil which IS a mineral oil but with all the capabilities of the very best synthetic oils on the market and not only that the properties of this oil are so good it can be used as an Engine Oil, a Gear Box Oil and a Differential Oil all out of one can indeed this oil has made the claim of being

As working in a oil distributor, i really cant believe this.

So the base is a mineral oil. What kind of additives are added into the base mineral oil? Mineral oil has better lubricating elements than a synthetic oil due less use of additivies (synthetic oils use very high additivies to make the oil withstand longer servicelimits). But the actual lubrication suffers from the additives used in Synthetic oil partly because the very high surfacepressure. Its great that we can start the engines in -25 degrees and the oil still keeps its formation in over 100 degrees plus we can drive almost 20000miles with the same oil. But oil cant do everything.

Main question; How long can you use your mineral oil in the engine between the services?

I understand the use in Engine, transmission and differential. Since the RX-7's diffrential doesent need LS additives.

[Mazdarotaryparts]

As working in a oil distributor, i really cant believe this.

So the base is a mineral oil. What kind of additives are added into the base mineral oil? Mineral oil has better lubricating elements than a synthetic oil due less use of additivies (synthetic oils use very high additivies to make the oil withstand longer servicelimits). But the actual lubrication suffers from the additives used in Synthetic oil partly because the very high surfacepressure. Its great that we can start the engines in -25 degrees and the oil still keeps its formation in over 100 degrees plus we can drive almost 20000miles with the same oil. But oil cant do everything.

Main question; How long can you use your mineral oil in the engine between the services?

I understand the use in Engine, transmission and differential. Since the RX-7's diffrential doesent need LS additives.


Sorry not sure what you don't beleive, if you ask specific questions I will get the answers from Prolong for you.

This should also answer some of the above questions,

A Rotary is different to a piston engine and you would never leave the oil in for 20,000 miles because of the slight petrol contamination you get, indeed if the oil gets to smelly it's best to change it,

Yes a lot of RX-7 guys change oil at 3,000 but Mazda recommends the RX-8 service intervals at 12,500 miles or 1 year in essentially the same engine, however the same as mentioned above Prolong is also able to withstand longer service limits.

My personal recomendation would be extend the milage interval if you wish just make sure the oil does not start to smell too much of petrol or if you see "mayonase", change it.

Don't forget that with this oil you get a full oil system warrenty that includes the apex seals (tips) if they wear and as far as I know no other oil on the market offers this.

I have even asked if the warrenty applies if the compression is low and the answer was "Yes" because whilst the oil will not mend low compression it will stop the compression getting and worse due to wear.

Hope this helps