Another Hayward Project Nears Fruition

[rmagictastic]

Another message from the mothership:

Mr. Hayward of Newbury Berkshire, has asked me to put up a post about one of his projects, as he is busy in the garage…

Anyone remember the Black 1st gen Carl ran as RS3? Peripheral Port…Well, after Carl took the engine out had a bit of a play, then refitted it, unfortunately he wasn’t concentrating during the re-build and accidentally added a third rotor!!

I got there one day for a cuppa, said ‘What the hell is that?’.. he said ‘Yeah..Well it’s a 3-rotor isn’t it’

So anyway, the engine is mounted on a custom cross member/mount and after some fettling and grinding was joined on to an RX8 six speed box.

The prop shaft is from some mazda of the past?? ( at one point there was 6 different shafts on the floor by the ramp) with a modified flange at the rear to mount correctly with the diff.

Again the engine is a Peripheral Ported lump, it runs a custom racing beat Dizzy, (which is made of Perspex!!).

The carb thing was a bit of a challenge as well, after many many many hours of searching on the net trying to locate a 3 barrel carb, Carl decided to use one whole Webber IDA, and modify another, to make the 3 chokes required.

Cant wait to hear it fire!! Should be blinkin awsone..

Message End!!

(ive prob got something wrong but am sure Mr. Hayward wil correct later on)

Rmaj

[TwistedHumour]

Mmmmmm... beautiful!

[antnicuk]

short block 3 rotor, nice.

its bound to be loud though!

[Spartacus]

:eek: Love to see the dizzy in the dark

[Ada7]

Looks really cool. :cool
Love the painted engine look and perpex dizzy. That would look crazy in the dark :)
Can some one explain the difference between a short and long block.:xconfused Never understood this.

Adam

[RotorHeid]

lovely engine/carbs but Rx8 box???ek!

[MikeLMR]

next time you see a 20B look at the centre plate ... it's larger than the others. That is because it houses an extra bearing (a centre bearing ... somthing 2 rotors don't have as stadard) and two secondary (large) ports.

if you look at a short block 3 rotor it uses a standard width 2 rotor centre housing ... problem is you end up with one rotor that has two small ports instead of one small and one large ... it don't matter with peripheral port though :D

[sadgoth]

Looks really cool. :cool
Love the painted engine look and perpex dizzy. That would look crazy in the dark :)
Can some one explain the difference between a short and long block.:xconfused Never understood this.

Adam

As far as I can tell the centre plates in a short block are the same size, in the 20b the second centre plate is about twice the size (and weight) on the normal 13b centre plate.

I'm sure I'll get :flamed if that is wrong

[Ada7]

Have to see if i can get one of each together to spot the difference easily :D
Thanks anyway guys :Thumbs-up

Adam

[Jono FD3]

Mmmmmm, I'm liking the look of that......... Any blowing devices going to be fitted or is it an all out N/A lump?

Jono

[Ada7]

Just found this which seems to show the difference nicely :D

Adam

[MikeLMR]

notice they have them in the wrong order .. otherwise the rear rotor has two large ports and the centre one two small ones :)

[Ada7]

If you say so :o
I'm learning today :D

Adam

[Ricco_04]

That look's quality! :cool

Look forward to seeing that at Pod.....say.......oooooohhhhh...... sometime in August! ;) :Thumbsup!

[20B_boy]

If you say so :o
I'm learning today :D
The 2 side housings in the middle in your pic need swapping - the fat 20B intermediate plate with the additional bearing/gear carrier goes behind the front rotor housing. You can see the difference in size of the primary and secondary intake ports - each rotor housings needs a small one and a large one where as in their current arrangement the rear rotor housing has to secondary ports and the middle rotor housing has 2 primary ports :)

[RotorHeid]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o229/scot62/housings.jpg
Is the same one before its goes blue?

[travellinbob]

ooooh I cant wait for tomorrows installment of what carl has been up to in the shed!! seems like evry day there is something new.
Beautifull engine.
cheers for sharing.

[Carl]

Hi Ian,
Yes they are the same housings that I have used.
Regards
Carl

[Carl]

Thanks for putting the pic up Nick.
All of the info is correct too.
Regards
Carl

[RotorHeid]

:Thumbsup! You're cool man!!

[travellinbob]

Hmmmso can I possibly ask what you might be going to do with the 1000 sedan Carl? wo9uld be lovely with a nice little 12app in it?
cheers, michael.

[allstaruk]

Good stuff its great to see people doing things a bit differently.

AL

[Norton]

its bound to be loud though!
If carl has anything to do with it, yes :)
Looks good Carl.
Any news on the 4 rotor?

[OLSKOOLROTAR]

mmmmmmm nice, top work there Carl, cant wait to see that in action:Thumbsup!

[TRex]

Hopefully 'this one' does something other than upset people with it's obtrusive noise! :Grrr

Good Luck with it....... :)

[Carl]

Hopefully 'this one' does something other than upset people with it's obtrusive noise! :Grrr

Good Luck with it....... :)


First thing I want to do is get you to check out the tailpipe when we first start it up to make sure it is LOUD enough for you.
That way you won't have any problems from that point on with "Obtrusive" noise.
Regards
Carl

[rmagictastic]

Hopefully 'this one' does something other than upset people with it's obtrusive noise! :Grrr

Good Luck with it....... :)

eh???
.....

[iaint]

eh???
.....

You must've heard (or felt) the 4-rotor???

[oldone]

Def on my wants list........:Thumbsup! :Typing

[antnicuk]

Hopefully 'this one' does something other than upset people with it's obtrusive noise! :Grrr





Thats what we hoped when you became a MOD:Thumbsup!

[iaint]

Thats what we hoped when you became a MOD:Thumbsup!

so true :Giggle

[mattmaclennan]

MFR housings?

[RotorHeid]

No Chance!! cost a bomb to buy one!!

[BlitzBoy]

Is this one going to have a proper exhaust system?
that thing was three times as loud as Dragons Car at a RSIII

Good luck with it Carl I hope it does 12's

[mattmaclennan]

No Chance!! cost a bomb to buy one!!

And how is having a stat gear fitted so cheap?

[Carl]

And how is having a stat gear fitted so cheap?


Hi Matt,
I think that Ian means the PP housings,if they are from Mazda then they are around $2000.00 USD a piece.
The PP housings in this engine are modded stock Mazda ones,they are RX4 rotor housings.
The mod for the stationary gear to the center plate is quite involved too,so does cost to do.
Regards
Carl

[Carl]

Mmmmmm, I'm liking the look of that......... Any blowing devices going to be fitted or is it an all out N/A lump?

Jono


Hi Jono,
No turbo's,we'll just run it N/A
Regards
Carl

[Fish]

Hell that wont keep the noise down much!!!

Fish

[K1HKS arse]

Carl,
to help another project near fruition can i pls have the complete spec of my engine via email as previously requested ??????????????

[Carl]

Carl,
to help another project near fruition can i pls have the complete spec of my engine via email as previously requested ??????????????

You have written what it is in yoiur advert already,not much I can add really.:Thumbsup!
Regards
Carl