any 2000 RX7 in the UK ? Pictures ?

[michaelb]

Hi all

Can some one kindly explain to me why I never see newer RX7s like year 2000 in the UK? I know that the production of UK rexes ended in 95 and Japan carried on. Is there something to do with the emission test? If so can any supporting vendor rectify that, and how much would that cost. I have a 96 RB Bathurst and would not mind at some stage getting a 2000 model sourced by importers on this site.

Regards,
Michaelb

[grinder]

i suppose the SVA stopped a lot of newer cars coming in to the UK

but now there is some wierd law - that if you bring a car that under 10 yrs old into the UK - you have to supply some build manual type thing - and these dont exist for the FD

i could be barking up the wrong tree but its something like that - a friend of a freind is trying to import a 2004 skyline , and just cant do it ???

Stu

have a read here :

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_506874-04.hcsp#P246_10809

i think you are right about the emission side of things though

and here aswell :

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/carlgvowners/importingandbuildingvehicles/modelreportsavailabletothepublic.htm

im getting good at this :D

[michaelb]

Hi

Thanks for that. It looks like it is the fuel consumption and possibly the impact bars ( should be able to be fitted ?). Surly the emission can be sorted out with a Apexi pfc and a standard down pipe?

I remember seeing a lovely blue R reg rx7 with a vented bonnet at Re-works about 6 months ago.

I have never seen a newer RX7 in the UK,

ANY ONE ?

Regards,
Michaelb




i suppose the SVA stopped a lot of newer cars coming in to the UK

but now there is some wierd law - that if you bring a car that under 10 yrs old into the UK - you have to supply some build manual type thing - and these dont exist for the FD

i could be barking up the wrong tree but its something like that - a friend of a freind is trying to import a 2004 skyline , and just cant do it ???

Stu

have a read here :

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_506874-04.hcsp#P246_10809

i think you are right about the emission side of things though

and here aswell :

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/carlgvowners/importingandbuildingvehicles/modelreportsavailabletothepublic.htm

im getting good at this :D

[sadgoth]

There are a few 2000 and later cars in the UK, however with the new model report regulations in place anything post 96 can't come into the country without a model report. I know several people are working on trying to put one together but it cost tens of thousands of pounds and every car to come through on a model report must be the exact spec of the report ie totally standard. Apparantly, it can get to the point where if your SVA centre is particularly nasty after market guages or brake pads could get it failed!

[FD3UK]

The question is will they fall out of the ESVA when they are 10 years old and only need an MOT. If so there will be some Spirit R's arriving in a few years time :mmmm

[michaelb]

Hi

It is a shame really. I quite fancy a newer reg RX7.

Regards,
Michaelb



There are a few 2000 and later cars in the UK, however with the new model report regulations in place anything post 96 can't come into the country without a model report. I know several people are working on trying to put one together but it cost tens of thousands of pounds and every car to come through on a model report must be the exact spec of the report ie totally standard. Apparantly, it can get to the point where if your SVA centre is particularly nasty after market guages or brake pads could get it failed!

[andrewrx7]

You could have imported newer vehicles until early 2004, by using a disabled car loophole in the SVA testing. The government eventually got rid of that, and as has been said, any newer vehicle less tha n 10years old now requires a very exacting model report, for the car to be tested against.

Why aren't there that many newer ones in the UK? TW Whites did import and "convert" a few to UK spec, so there are some around, but from memory, the sale price was around £30,000. They occassionally come up for sale - there have been a couple on MRC in the last year. But think about it, before the loophole was closed, the 2000 or later cars would only have been 2-4 years old - thats alot of money needed to buy one and import it. Not alot of people would do this, esp when there are older ones available for alot less dosh.

(PS - mine sits on an 02 plate :Thumbs-up )

[michaelb]

Hi

I suppose £30 000 for a 4 year car is too much money. One can buy imported 96 RX for about £9 000 – £10 000 and modify it for another 5k – 7k

Do you have TW Whites nr or web address?

Are you telling me you have 2002 RX? If so any photos?

Regards,
Michaelb



You could have imported newer vehicles until early 2004, by using a disabled car loophole in the SVA testing. The government eventually got rid of that, and as has been said, any newer vehicle less tha n 10years old now requires a very exacting model report, for the car to be tested against.

Why aren't there that many newer ones in the UK? TW Whites did import and "convert" a few to UK spec, so there are some around, but from memory, the sale price was around £30,000. They occassionally come up for sale - there have been a couple on MRC in the last year. But think about it, before the loophole was closed, the 2000 or later cars would only have been 2-4 years old - thats alot of money needed to buy one and import it. Not alot of people would do this, esp when there are older ones available for alot less dosh.

(PS - mine sits on an 02 plate :Thumbs-up )

[andrewrx7]

Hi

I suppose £30 000 for a 4 year car is too much money. One can buy imported 96 RX for about £9 000 – £10 000 and modify it for another 5k – 7k

Do you have TW Whites nr or web address?

Are you telling me you have 2002 RX? If so any photos?

Regards,
Michaelb

Sorry, maybe not explained well enough! I think the new cars from Whites were around the 30k mark when they were new - obviously nowadays, they are less - there have been a few for sale over the last year or 2, for around the 10-15k mark. Whites don't sell them anymore (unless they are 2nd hand), I was using them as an example.

[craigr]

I have a 2001 model FD. Have had it for about 2 years now.

[michaelb]

Hi

Thanks for the replay

The car sounds great. Pictures ?????

Regards,
Michaelb

I have a 2001 model FD. Have had it for about 2 years now.

[Ricco_04]

I cant access it from work but Andrew has a 'Spirit' website - the link is in his sig. I went on it a while ago, lot of usefull info there :Thumbs-up

[andrewrx7]

Yep, website concentrates on the Spirit-R. Glad the info was interesting, Ricco!

Yes, I do have a 2002 FD. Andrew at Jimmys also has one, although he rarely posts on here. He had a good feature done a while ago, in Jap Performance (Jan05) - the article is also on the website. Jap Performance were kind enough to supply me with the feature. Mine is the white one. I have also recently put up another white one, from a guy in NZ. I have some pics of him on the track, but haven't got them up yet. (Oddly, all 3 of the "featured" (such a grand term!) cars, are owned by Andrew's!). I keep meaning to try and get some decent pics of mine, but just haven't got round to it yet! Maybe this year! :Thumbs-up

[craigr]

A couple of older pics of my 2001 model. I've made a couple of minor external changes since, but you get the idea.

Craig

[andrewrx7]

A couple of older pics of my 2001 model. I've made a couple of minor external changes since, but you get the idea.

Craig

:yes Nice!

The sig is getting longer...... when will it end? :D

What is it pushing out at the moment?

[craigr]

I've already had to edit it down as I've reached the maximum field size !!

It will never end... well, OK it will. I don't think I will ever go single turbo, so am getting close to the limit on the stock setup. I RR'd it at RE:worx a couple of months back and it achieved 376 FWHP. Fuelling was starting to struggle at that point, so maybe an uprated pump and FPR if I want to take it further.

[Rixio]

Craig can we have some more pics of your car cos i wana get a 99 spec look on my new fd...

[craigr]

I will give it a clean and get out there with the camera in the next coupla days.

[Rixio]

Thx matey appreciate it...

[allstaruk]

Here you go this is my local importer where I got my RX from http://www.autobaseuk.com/bin/findcar.dll?site=autobaseuk&idno=MAGM01000460

[michaelb]

Hi

…very nice. I wonder what is the difference between my 96 RBBathurst and yours when compared unmodified…

Is that a stock lip or a Mazda Speed ?

Regards,
Michaelb




A couple of older pics of my 2001 model. I've made a couple of minor external changes since, but you get the idea.

Craig

[michaelb]

HI

Is that your RX ?

Regards,
Michaelb




Here you go this is my local importer where I got my RX from http://www.autobaseuk.com/bin/findcar.dll?site=autobaseuk&idno=MAGM01000460

[jinx]

I was told there is a work-around for the model report issue applicable only to one-off [genuinely] private imports. It allegedly involves only a stringent emissions test - done by MIRA and therefore much more expensive than the regular SVA testing. I have not found out any more out about the possibilities though so it may be an urban myth. Does anybody have any more info?

I think RX Heaven posted on here about preparing a model report for late series RX7's but factory production numbers for later cars means the supply will never be as plentiful as the early ones.

[sadgoth]

The only way round the model report I have heard so far is go for the SVA under kit car regs. This would mean importing the car in parts and re-assembling it here! I'm not sure whether this would work, the car would then be on a Q plate, but as far as I'm aware it is the only way to get round the new regs.

[dwarfslapper]

A couple of older pics of my 2001 model. I've made a couple of minor external changes since, but you get the idea.

Craig

very very nice car craig saw this at reworx on the rollers :Thumbs-up
if geff wasnt working on it i would of nicked your cf door handels and rear wing :rollin :spank

[andrewrx7]

If so any photos?

Regards,
Michaelb

A couple from Brooklands last year. Completely stock car.

[snowy87]

A couple of older pics of my 2001 model. I've made a couple of minor external changes since, but you get the idea.

Craig
Hi Craig, have you thought about selling? Cheers, Ken

[snowy87]

Hi Craig, Dont suppose you are thinking of selling your RX

[noyzboy100db]

So ALLSTARUK bought the blue FD from Magnums. It's still listed by Magnum's in Autotrader.
I've walked around it many times and wished it was still stock. Still everyone to their own.

Some feedback on Magnum's would be interesting as they still have a hugely expensive 96 RB for sale!!.

Noyzboy

[craigr]

Snowy87 - It all depends on the $ I guess. I am not actively selling the RX at this stage, but for the right price, I can always be persuaded to part with my baby.

Newer models are getting rarer and rarer all the time as you know, and I set out to get as new a model as I could find at the time - short of a Spirit R, this was the newest I could get.

[snowy87]

Yep, i know exactly what you mean. I have got my heart set on a spirit r, unfortunately of the two in the uk, ones not for sale, the other has been repaired. Thats not a problem if its been done properly, its just that its very dear considering this. Iam in contact with various people trying to crack the model report, and one of them is actually attempting to reach required levels next week, but obviously its not quite that straight forward!! Your car looks gorgeous. How many miles has she done? Have you changed the filters and oil every 3000k? I had a 2000X RB until a couple of years ago, that was a lovely car. Had 7000 miles on the clock when i sold it to a lad from poole. What would you value your car at now? Cheers, Ken

[J.j.]

Hi

…very nice. I wonder what is the difference between my 96 RBBathurst and yours when compared unmodified…

Is that a stock lip or a Mazda Speed ?

Regards,
Michaelb

Those lips are same as yours, no?
The later ones come with better turbos, better intercooler, better exhaust system..... maybe more

[michaelb]

Hi

If any of the importers here could sort out the model report I defiantly be up for a newer RX7 despite having 96 jap model with front and back 99spec and a re-build engine 2 years ago…

I am sure quite of us would consider importing a newer car…it could be a very profitable business for a importer to sort out the report..

I wonder how much would a 2001 RX cost to import from Japan any way?

Group buy?

Craig – the car looks the business. It looks like it has the spoiler as standard, right?

Regards,
Michaelb

[JP825]

But Late model RX in Japan is still not cheap either....

[michaelb]

so what are we talking about for a car 4 years old ? Does any one know ?

Regards,
Michaelb


But Late model RX in Japan is still not cheap either....

[snowy87]

michaelb. As i said earlier, bin looking at spirit r prices. saw a particularly nice one under 10,000 miles, all taxes, duties, transport, rough test costs, car purchase, on the road, in your name, approx £20k. RB,s etc, a lot less. Check out bonsai cars website. Unfortunately, i think they are shut till next week--- Japanese holiday or somethin

[snowy87]

Noyzboy100db. Are you sure ALLSTARUK isnt Magnum motors. Yes walked around the car a few times meself. NICE

[[OLDMAZ]]

How about an 03 Spirit R Type A for $60,000 NZD ?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/auction-54990396.htm

[Ada7]

So ALLSTARUK bought the blue FD from Magnums. It's still listed by Magnum's in Autotrader.
I've walked around it many times and wished it was still stock. Still everyone to their own.

Some feedback on Magnum's would be interesting as they still have a hugely expensive 96 RB for sale!!.

Noyzboy
No he didnt buy the blue FD. He got a red Mazdaspeed kitted one from them.
That blue one has been there for a while now (1+ years), and they also have a white '96 RB with only 8k on the clock which has to of been there nearly 3 years :3Confused http://www.autobaseuk.com/bin/findcar.dll?site=autobaseuk&idno=MAGM01000345
I too have walked around Magnum Motors a few times and have always said that their stock is over priced (even said that to one of the guys working there). The only thing i will say is that the cars they get in do seem to be of the highest standard and a guy my mate knows on the skyline owners club bought a GTS-T from them and hasn't had any problems with it at all.
I'm sure allstaruk will be able to shed some more light on their dealings.

[michaelb]

Hi

I have a white 96 RB Bathurst….The car on your link with a recon engine is probably worth around 10k ( despite ugly nose ) At the moment 13k is hugely over priced.

Regards,
Michaelb



QUOTE=Ada7]No he didnt buy the blue FD. He got a red Mazdaspeed kitted one from them.
That blue one has been there for a while now (1+ years), and they also have a white '96 RB with only 8k on the clock which has to of been there nearly 3 years :3Confused http://www.autobaseuk.com/bin/findcar.dll?site=autobaseuk&idno=MAGM01000345
I too have walked around Magnum Motors a few times and have always said that their stock is over priced (even said that to one of the guys working there). The only thing i will say is that the cars they get in do seem to be of the highest standard and a guy my mate knows on the skyline owners club bought a GTS-T from them and hasn't had any problems with it at all.
I'm sure allstaruk will be able to shed some more light on their dealings.[/QUOTE]

[michaelb]

wii the car pass UK tests ? That is a million $ question...

Regards,
Michaelb


']How about an 03 Spirit R Type A for $60,000 NZD ?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mazda/auction-54990396.htm

[sadgoth]

wii the car pass UK tests ? That is a million $ question...

Regards,
Michaelb

No
$1Million please :Giggle

As we still don't have a model report (and if we did the Spirit R would be seperate again + we'd need different reports for the Spirit R type A, Type B & C!)

There is a loophole I have been told about recently, don't know if it is true as I haven't investigated it, but in Ireland there is no model report requirement and from what I have heard, you don't need a model report to import a car from Ireland. I'm guessing it would need to be imported into Ireland, registered there and then exported to the UK.

[grinder]

No
There is a loophole I have been told about recently, don't know if it is true as I haven't investigated it, but in Ireland there is no model report requirement and from what I have heard, you don't need a model report to import a car from Ireland. I'm guessing it would need to be imported into Ireland, registered there and then exported to the UK.

now that is sneaky

could you do the same for the I.O.M. or summat like that ??

[ftorex]

No
$1Million please :Giggle

As we still don't have a model report (and if we did the Spirit R would be seperate again + we'd need different reports for the Spirit R type A, Type B & C!)

There is a loophole I have been told about recently, don't know if it is true as I haven't investigated it, but in Ireland there is no model report requirement and from what I have heard, you don't need a model report to import a car from Ireland. I'm guessing it would need to be imported into Ireland, registered there and then exported to the UK.


Thats true there isnt any model report here in Ireland..You can import any age of car you want... :) BUT heres the catch if you want to register it...First you have to pay the customs and excise duty and then the VRT (vehicle registration tax)....Wait for it...For a 2003 RX7 that would cost around 9.5K Euro (Thats just the VRT)...Importing a car into Ireland isnt a problem but by the time you register it the Tax man has nearly doubled the price for what you will bring it in for... :mad:

[snowy87]

sadgoth. according to the people doing the model report, because they know i want to import a spirit r, all models will be covered :cheers

[snowy87]

Cheers oldmaz, bin in touch with andrew the owner. Works out about £21k to buy + everything else-- bit dear, but thanx for reply :Thumbs-up

[andrewrx7]

Hi Ken,

We know RXHeaven is trying to sort out the model report (don't know if anyone else is?) and they have posted on here (MRC) saying they are using an FD with chassis number FD3S4*****, which is a 96-98 car.
How are they going to apply that report to the updated models (post 99), including the Spirits?
And I was reading on the net (can't find the link though), that imported cars need to meet the Euro emmission tests. From memory, if a car is made between 97 and 00, then they are tested against the Euro2 standards, and if a car is made after 01 then it has to meet the Euro3 standards. Since Spirits are 02, then they come under the Euro3 standards - so have RXHeaven (and others?) got an 02 car to test for emmissions?

Intersting to see how they are getting around these issues!

Cheers
Andrew

[sadgoth]

My understanding is that each model revision needs a seperate report so the post 99 cars (up to the Spirits) would be different from the 97-98 cars and the Spirits would be different again.

The emissions thing would be problematic, but I suspect not insurmountable, once all the research has been done, the costs of that research would be passed on to each user of the model report, say for arguements sake, the report cost £50k (including the development of emmissions control systems for the post 99 cars) that would have to be covered and of course, these reports aren't created for the fun of it, the companies that work on them do so to make a profit so with cars a rare as the Spirits, we would be paying a HUGE premium (makes the Ireland option less expensive sounding)!

[Oedipus Rex]

If you imported to ireland and paid all tax duties etc, and then imported to UK, would you have to pay import duties again once in uk?

[sadgoth]

I think as Ireland is in the EU, duties and taxes would not be due.

[snowy87]

Hi Andrew, yes know what you are saying. Spoke to Nigel on wednesday, He knows full well that i want to import a spirit r. If he thought that another report/test would be necessary, he would have said. I have even offered to import a spirit r so that he could work on the model report for that, but he said no need, as the car he is working on will be adequate. Cheers, Ken :Thumbs-up

[michaelb]

Hi

Are you saying that Nigel ( who is this man ? ) is actually working on the model report for spirit – r and you are going to be able to pass the tests in the UK with that car pretty soon ?

IS IT REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN?

Regards,
Michaelb



Hi Andrew, yes know what you are saying. Spoke to Nigel on wednesday, He knows full well that i want to import a spirit r. If he thought that another report/test would be necessary, he would have said. I have even offered to import a spirit r so that he could work on the model report for that, but he said no need, as the car he is working on will be adequate. Cheers, Ken :Thumbs-up

[snowy87]

michaelb. Yes. Nigel is the main man at RX heaven. He has invested a lot of money into this, and its in his financial interest to see this through. Having said that, it is still quite a complicated and time consuming project that Nigel does when he can fit it into his already busy day. So there is a big light at the end of the tunnel, thanks to RX Heaven. Cheers, Ken

[FileasFogg]

Hi,

I have a beautiful blue 2000 model type RS which I imagine is even rarer over here but have only just registered so can't post the pics. Is it just a matter of time or what?

[michaelb]

Hi

How didi you managed to pass all the UK tests ?

Regards,
Michaelb



Hi,

I have a beautiful blue 2000 model type RS which I imagine is even rarer over here but have only just registered so can't post the pics. Is it just a matter of time or what?

[FileasFogg]

I bought the car one year after it was imported so it was already UK registered. I'm not up to speed with all this SVA/ESVA malarky! I was told that there was a model report already done and that a spirit r was sold here recently.

[Kron]

Someone I know has a 2001

http://www.agbr20777.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/2001-7.jpg

[Kevint]

The new regulations and model report requirement for later cars came into force from April 2004, before April 2004 a number of later model cars were imported.

Kevin

[snowy87]

Kron. Does he want to sell. What mileage is she?

[snowy87]

Spirit r up for grabs on ebay, any takers?

[Kron]

Kron. Does he want to sell. What mileage is she?

9500 miles, Its something he's only bought in the last few months, Im sure its newly registered in the UK so I'm not sure how they went about it.

[snowy87]

Is she registered and road legal. and does he want to sell :cheers

[andrewrx7]

9500 miles, Its something he's only bought in the last few months, Im sure its newly registered in the UK so I'm not sure how they went about it.

The import loophole was closed early 2004 (as Kevin has said above), but as long as it was SVA'ed before that date then a car can remain unregistered (i.e. stored) but still able to be registered whenever. Like mine for example, it was imported/SVAed late 2003/early 2004, but remained unregistered until I bought it in Sept 2004.

[andrewrx7]

Is she registered and road legal. and does he want to sell :cheers

It must be registered, its got a number plate. But no tax disk, but then who knows if it is a current picture!
It could be one the TW White imported ones? I'm not sure when they stopped bringing them into the country.

[FileasFogg]

I have posted pics of my 2000 RS here:

http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fileasfogg70/

[snowy87]

FileasFogg. Wow she looks lovely! Lucky man

[snowy87]

Kron. Where did he find it.Was it trade or private

[FileasFogg]

FileasFogg. Wow she looks lovely! Lucky man
Sure is and sure am, I used to have 96 UK model (pics posted same place) which I loved, got ripped for the big spoiler though but this just beats it into nowhere!

[noyzboy100db]

Can anyone say what the situation is re: importing a 2000 model into UK from another EU country where it is already taxed and registered
Does the model report issue gety bypassed ???

Any help appreciated

Noyzboy