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rmagictastic
17th November 2005, 08:42 AM
Ok,

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

ive done some digging around and this is what i have found.

POWER FC

Apexi release the Power FC ECU in three different flavours:

1. 414-Z001 - this fitted the 1995-1998 fd's.
2. 414-Z002 - this fitted the 1991-1995 fd's.
3. 414-Z003 - this fitted the 1998 on fd's.

After a short while Apexi then upgraded the software version and made the chip in the ECU soldered non-removable, unlike those above where the chip was a pin type and could be removed.

Apexi re-released the Power Fc's serving the same purposes but with different serial and part numbers:

4. 414-Z004 - this fitted the 1991-1995 fd's.
5. 414-Z005 - this fitted the 1995-1998 fd's.
6. 414-Z006 - this fitted the 1998 on fd's.

Nowadays you will find that all new power fc's sold new are one of the three later models. The most common over here is the 414-Z004 this is simply due to the fact that there are more 1991-1995 cars out there.

COMMANDER (this is generally where people get confused)

With each of the models of Power Fc that Apexi released the provided a hand held interface module called the Commander. With the commander you could read/monitor all the parameters that were accesable through the Apexi Power FC ECU. The commander also gives the ability to Write SOME commands to the ECU (for full mapping capabilities a specific software package is required, this is called DATALOGIT).

POWER FC NUMBER------------------------COMMANDER NUMBER

414-Z001 --------------------------------415-Z001
414-Z002 --------------------------------415-Z001
414-Z003 --------------------------------415-Z001
414-Z004 --------------------------------415-Z002
414-Z005 --------------------------------????????? (doesnt say)
414-Z006 --------------------------------415-X001

The above numbers are from the Apexi website, but.... from discussions with tuners and owner it is quite clear that some commanders will fit some other Power FC's and that the list above is not a definitive 'this will ONLY work with this'.

MIX AND MATCH (the bit that might be wrong so i need feedback)

From info gathered:

COMMANDER--------------WHAT POWER FC ECU IT WILL ACTUALLY FIT

415-Z001--------------------------414-Z001/414-Z002/414-Z003
415-Z002--------------------------414-Z004
415-X001--------------------------414-Z006/414-Z005/414-Z004

OK, ypu will know if the commander and Power Fc ECU are NOT compatable as when you plug the together and switch the car on, the commander screen will light up, display the APEXI logo, and that will be it the logo will stay there and the menu will not be displayed (as usually would).

If anyone has got any other models/compatability between different Commanders and ECU's, can you let me know(or if im wrong put me right)

Thanks :guinness

Nick

clive
17th November 2005, 09:18 AM
Well done for finding and posting this :)

Here are the instructions on how to install / operate your PFC which should copliment the above post nicely.

http://www.apexi-usa.com/pdfInstallation/12.pdf

rmagictastic
17th November 2005, 09:26 AM
cheers Clive,

thought i would post some facts, coz ive had alsorts of trouble getting a commander for my early version 414-Z002 power Fc.

andrewrx7
17th November 2005, 10:22 AM
Nice write up!

This may not give any more info, but links to Apex site directly, for the Power FC and Commander:

LINK 1 (http://www.apexera.co.jp/carlife/pro_apexi/electronics/linup.html)

LINK 2 (http://www.apexera.co.jp/carlife/pro_apexi/electronics/pdf/POWER%20FC.pdf)